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09-20-2013 | 10:14 AM
#2711
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Place loves to make lifers out of runt hogs with no legacy.
09-20-2013 | 10:52 AM
#2712
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PM90 and like-minded chums thus have no clue they're actually sailing directly TOWARD the perfect storm instead of riding the tide away from it. They fail to make the 5-10% (just to avoid lawsuits), their pay is frozen, their health care climbs 25% or more and they remain bent over at 120 degrees with their face in the crew room carpet getting rammed in the outflow valve by scheduling practices that exist under a "few rules" mentality and horrid staffing.
God, what a nightmare..........and what suckers.
09-20-2013 | 11:26 AM
#2713
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From: Reclined
I beg your pardon, but most folks will make MORE. Quicker upgrade. We get a raise too- we get the airplanes at the negotiated -900/175 rate. So unless you are a year 11 captain getting capped, or similar scenario.... You're wrong. Or you can re word what you're saying to take the caps into account by those it'll affect. But if you aren't affected by a cap, most FOs are looking at gaining tens of thousands of dollars due to upgrade. We are currently stagnant as anything. 0 movement.
a 10% raise in healthcare costs isnt making less money? You're hoping you get 900's. Could be 700's, which are at your current rates.. = pay cut
Good Luck you Blue Streakers!
09-20-2013 | 11:29 AM
#2714
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From: Reclined
yeah.. ok. pass the TA and let me know how all that works out for you.. maybe thats what you need is a dose of reality.. I didnt read 'quicker upgrade' in that TA of yours.. have a section reference for me?
a 10% raise in healthcare costs isnt making less money? You're hoping you get 900's. Could be 700's, which are at your current rates.. = pay cut
Good Luck you Blue Streakers!
a 10% raise in healthcare costs isnt making less money? You're hoping you get 900's. Could be 700's, which are at your current rates.. = pay cut
Good Luck you Blue Streakers!
Section header in the TA states larger RJs so doubtful it's 700s.but even if it is, how is it a paycut? We are getting paid the same rates. 1+1=2
Keep talking; your arguments get worse and worse.
09-20-2013 | 11:54 AM
#2715
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From: ANG
09-20-2013 | 12:00 PM
#2716
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From: Whale FO
I Love PSA
Selling out future psa pilots for a short lived " quick" upgrade. I hope you can see that your management has nothing if you say no. Where will the planes go next? Who has pilots? Say no and get them anyway.
09-20-2013 | 12:31 PM
#2717
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From: Left
Do you have any sort of common sense? Mesa and Republic can barely staff the airplanes they currently have. Your selfish and irrational responses to why you should vote yes astound me. It is disappointing to see someone with such a high skill set sell themselves short and bring their peers down in the process.
Here let me get it for you....
Yup, Republic is going to stand up a CRJ operation just to take airplanes that PSA could have gotten if the pilots had just BOHICA'd.
Because RJET's Q400 operation is currently running so smoothly and their previous CRJ experience worked out so well for them.
And Mesa...how do you figger they are going to staff those E-Jets they just got for United, let alone a bunch of additional CRJs for Airways?
Because RJET's Q400 operation is currently running so smoothly and their previous CRJ experience worked out so well for them.
And Mesa...how do you figger they are going to staff those E-Jets they just got for United, let alone a bunch of additional CRJs for Airways?
You are taking years off your own life....go have a beer.
09-20-2013 | 12:39 PM
#2718
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From: Left
The clause that mentions being able to hold you at PSA for a year is a doozy.
The better one is the sentence "In its sole discretion" when referring to Airways deciding if there are any qualified applicants at PSA....If their "sole discretion" is that there are no qualified pilots that month their obligation to hire is met..........By hiring NONE
09-20-2013 | 01:01 PM
#2719
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From: French-Canadian
Yup, Republic is going to stand up a CRJ operation just to take airplanes that PSA could have gotten if the pilots had just BOHICA'd.
Because RJET's Q400 operation is currently running so smoothly and their previous CRJ experience worked out so well for them.
And Mesa...how do you figger they are going to staff those E-Jets they just got for United, let alone a bunch of additional CRJs for Airways?
Airways can do whatever they want to PSA; they can do it now, and they can do it in the future should this CBA get ratified. That's the downside of being wholly owned; did you people pay no attention to how Comair unwound during and after Delta's bankruptcy?
Because RJET's Q400 operation is currently running so smoothly and their previous CRJ experience worked out so well for them.
And Mesa...how do you figger they are going to staff those E-Jets they just got for United, let alone a bunch of additional CRJs for Airways?
Airways can do whatever they want to PSA; they can do it now, and they can do it in the future should this CBA get ratified. That's the downside of being wholly owned; did you people pay no attention to how Comair unwound during and after Delta's bankruptcy?
09-20-2013 | 02:05 PM
#2720
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From: 717 Sidekick
I agree. The aggressive tone of some of these posts is out of control and completely unprofessional and uncalled for. I hope you realize though that this vote affects every other regional pilot in the country. That is why we are all so focused in following your vote. My pay scale along with those at RAH and Eagle and Mesa, etc, etc. will most likely go down if PSA votes yes. It's a scary thing for all of us! Lets all hold out for raises. It's not out of the question. Roughly $400 million profit in a quarter for the US Airways group is proof that you don't need to take this horrible contract.
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