What the deuce? Who even says this and agrees with it?

A guy broke into my house and stole some crap. I think he was looking for something that would benefit him. He and I are not friends.

 

Should they be paying us a million dollars each to fly their airplanes?

Their job is to run a profitable operation the same way it's my job to fly pax safely from A to B.

If you don't like their methods so be it. Would you tell a MLB pitcher not to throw his fastball 100mph because it's not fair? No, he throws hard because it gives him the best chance to win.

A successful contract benefits both parties. Unfortunately this time it doesn't benefit the majority of our pilots. Hopefully they realize it.

 

Yep, always crying for concessions is their job....
However, your MEC should have rejected anything concessionary.
Your company is making mad profits and you're entertaining concessions?
***??
If you can't talk improvements and making your lives better when the company is super profitable then when exactly will your MEC and union grow a pair if not now.
Concessions to make management more profit than they already get off your back while your FO's are on food stamps? Really?

 

You are right, it's not the easy choice. I know it sounds cliche and dramatic, but at some point we will all realize we've put up with too much BS and that we owe it to ourselves and our profession to just say NO MORE. I did it with the Eagle bankruptcy TA, with perceived great risk to my personal situation, and it felt great. I was past my breaking point and ready to live with the consequences of making a stand.

IMO you simply cannot afford to not vote no if you are worried for your regional airline job. We will wait a long long time for another ripe opportunity like we have now to stop managements' unnecessary slashing spree.

 

Will you pick up managements? Do you think they'll put themselves out of jobs? Please finish your "career" at the regional level. We do not need people with zero fortitude at mainline infecting our pilot groups with defeatist attitudes. You regional guys have been abused so much, for so long, that you seem to welcome and justify more of it. No wonder our hiring depts prefer military guys who have at least proven they're willing to fight for something. You guys won't even fight to help yourselves.

 

During negotiations, management ALWAYS says that you will lose flying/go out of business/go bankrupt if you don't approve the TA.

Normally ALPA would be giving you an unbiased opinion of what the real outcomes may be. Today, ALPA is more worried about the Delta Pilot's Association than they are about you.

Your future is in your hands.

-Former ALPA Status rep

 

This is a great post.

 

PSA pilots,

Look...I know the fear grenades are strong. But remember that fear cuts deeper than swords.

You will not lose your jobs. Let me repeat: you will NOT lose your jobs over this TA.

The majors are posting record profits, including US Air and AA. They need feed and the supply is dwindling. Staffing is already an issue at many Regionals.

Passing this TA will hurt your career in more ways than you know. Not only will it degrade working conditions for you and everybody at all Regionals, it will make any chance of you ever moving up to a major almost nil.

The endevour pilots fell for Delta's tricks and threats. Eagle pilots didn't. You can be next. The world has changed since COMAIR and that example is no longer valid in today's industry. However it won't stop mangement from subtly using it as a fear tactic.

Stand strong. Mangement can do nothing to you. This is a money grab, nothing more and nothing less.

 

These are quotes from each company. This isn't made up.

2013 Q2 Earnings:

AMR

In the second quarter of 2013, GAAP net profit was $220 million, a $461 million
improvement compared to the prior-year period. Excluding reorganization and special
items, second quarter 2013 net profit was $357 million, a $262 million improvement
compared to the prior-year period. This record setting quarterly result was bolstered by a
June during which the company recorded its best monthly profit, excluding
reorganization and special items, in its history.

US Airways Group

"So if you adjust for that and look at the pre-tax number and look at pretax, excluding special items, what you will see is we had a record $409 million pretax profit for the quarter. We're extremely pleased with that."

SkyWest Inc

St. George, Utah—SkyWest, Inc. (“SkyWest”) (NASDAQ: SKYW) today reported net income
of $20.7 million, or $0.39 per diluted share, for the quarter ended June 30, 2013, compared to net
income of $17.0 million, or $0.33 per diluted share, for the same period last year

United Continental Holdings:

United Airlines (UAL) today reported second-quarter 2013 net income of $521 million, or $1.35 per diluted share, excluding $52 million of special charges. Including special charges, UAL reported second-quarter 2013 net income of $469 million, an increase of 38 percent year-over-year, or $1.21 per diluted share.

Delta Air Lines Inc

"Richard H. Anderson - CEO: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. We reported an $840 million pre-tax profit for the June quarter. We increased our earnings year-on-year by $255 million, grew passenger revenue by $63 million year-on-year, expanded our pre-tax margin by 2.6 points to 8.7%, generated operating cash flow of $1.3 billion and earned $0.98 per share, beating First Call consensus of $0.95 per share. "

Republic Airways Holding:

"Republic Airways Holdings Inc. (RJET) today reported diluted earnings per share of $0.46, which is a 15.0% increase from the $0.40 per diluted share result in the second quarter of 2012. Net income increased 23.0% to $24.6 million for the quarter ended June 30, 2013, compared to net income of $20.0 million for the same period last year."


EVERYONE IS MAKING MONEY!! WE SHOULD GET RAISES!! They can afford to keep PSA around! VOTE NO!

 

Just playing devils advocate here, but the negotiations were with US Airways management not PSAs.