This sucks (for employees).

Here's an easy fix: if this passes and you didn't vote for it, quit. Then you don't have to worry about it. It's not like somebody is forcing you to work there -- it's not WalMart. Playing one group against another is SOP at Airways. As a wholey owned, they can say "Fine, as of 3/1/14 PSA will cease flight operations." and immediately start transferring airframes to Mesa. They'll do it for less.

Are people are still applying? They have no reason to give in.

 

You do realize that if PSA gives in they will go to the other regionals asking to beat the pilot cost, and for the non wholly owned, well most of them have clauses to adjust their FFD based on their competitors. Pinnacle taking a hair cut meant that SKW, RAH and EXJ will take a haircut on their Delta FFD compensation. It's not a mistake that United gave Delta flying, expect that contract to have been very underbid by their management and it will likely lead to lower compensation at RAH and SKW.

Mainline management is forcing regional management to zero profits, they in turn will come after their workforce and the wholly owned are going after the pilots. This in turn hurts everyone. We are all connected in a way and when someone takes a cut then a chain reaction is triggered.

US Airways can't go to Mesa or RAH and say either your pilots take these cuts or we will shut you down. After PSA the only airline they could intimidate is AWAC as they operate for US only and their contract IIRC is up in 2 years. Those guys will soon start to see pressure as they only have 50 seater and 2 years on their contract left. But AWAC will see the pressure wether PSA votes yes or no, but if it's a yes vote the pressure will be intensified for AWAC and others.

 

Ok, I'll admit I was the jackwagon on that post. As rereading it, it does say "but their longevity increases will be capped at the greater of their current longevity step or at 12 years (for Captains) and 4 years (for First Officers)."


Now where I jumped on that is......why have that in there. If it's not capped at your current longevity step. Why say the greater of your current or 12 yr. Could be a typo, that the company comes back and says. Oh no...in the notes it was meant to be this......grieve it if you don't like it.

I would want clarification on that for sure.....doesn't smell right, knowing how US words it's labor contracts....

 

I don't see AWAC accepting any more concessions than the decade-old concessionary agreement they are already working under.

EVERYBODY will have to "worry about it", regardless of working for PSA or not. Each new rock-bottom CBA becomes the objective, the cost benchmark, for each new regional lift agreement.

When you think about it, Delta came full-circle on wholly-owned regionals. They had Comair which obtained industry-leading compensation after an 89 day strike, then a few years later learned you can boss around your wholly owned pilot groups and use the (ever-looming) threat of shutdown to fool them into accepting industry-lagging contracts.

And after you get an industry-lagging contract from your wholly owned carrier, do whatever you want with them (see again, Comair) while using their CBA to beat up every contract carrier...further lowering the regional compensation bar.

Pattern bargaining cuts both ways, and the last decade the pattern has been largely downward rather than the other way...

 

MESA sure looks competitive by these charts. Mesa's pay will likely go up right after they cap you guys. Don't fall for it!

http://www.mesapilots.com/documents/...Comparison.pdf

 

It absolutely stinks. The greater of current longetevity or 12 year so a 15 year guy would be capped at 15 and a 10 year will be capped at 12.

 

Just voted no.

 

I voted no.

A quick count on the PSA pilots ALPA pilot forums shows;
9 in favor 21 against

A survey posted there shows;
29 in favor, 53 against , 4 none of your business and 3 for truck driving school.

Maybe this will help the Eagle guys get some sleep tonight.

Hold the line.

 

Have you ever followed up on an online survey compared to actual voting, often there are many more NO voters posting online that the actual voting. And here another one, you will not meet many YES voters on the line but the thing passes with 85%... I have seen it myself

 

I am not alluding to the AWAC pilots taking concessions, what I am saying is they have a big bullseye on their back and it's a matter of when US Airways management sets up shop there.