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Old 09-14-2015 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
That's why alpa should be dumped. Force regionals to deal with pilots on an individual basis day in and day out. Unions at this level are nothing more than the companies own personal police department for the pilots, keep them fools inline.
The union policing pilots? Muhahahahaha

Do you really believe that or is this another one of your "crafted" stories?
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Old 09-14-2015 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PSAJOBS
The union policing pilots? Muhahahahaha

Do you really believe that or is this another one of your "crafted" stories?
I'm starting to wonder if this guy does anything but sit in a basement too. How does that even make sense especially at a place like this where contract issues are constantly being openly arbitrated?

The union's "policing" is more so when the company's brand of policing involves things like putting letters in your file for calling out 8 total days in a year, or when they felt like going after pilots for fatigue calls after forcing them to take the "optional" 117 extension past 30. That's for you. Not the company.

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Old 09-14-2015 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PSAJOBS
The union policing pilots? Muhahahahaha

Do you really believe that or is this another one of your "crafted" stories?
Getting rid of a union at an airline would essentially destroy the pilots' ability to protect themselves. It would be too easy to scare the majority by picking off a few people here and there.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PSAJOBS
If what you say is true, there must have been extenuating circumstances like background............
The extenuating circumstance is the broken training program you guys have. His entire class is in the same boat. Impressive how you guys squeeze a 2 month program into 7 months.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 07:23 AM
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Are you all complaining about the paid vacation with full travel benefits they get while not having to worry about being on rsv or crashpads???? What's next, female army rangers??? Oooh wait.... Smh lol
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Old 09-14-2015 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PSAJOBS
The union policing pilots? Muhahahahaha

Do you really believe that or is this another one of your "crafted" stories?
Of course I believe it. It explains why things are for the most part "good" at the majors and "sh*tty" at the regionals. Same union, different so called service. Alpa simply doesn't represent the interests of regional pilots. The company literally rapes you while the union is worried about increasing the SSP from 4 to 5.

It's always the wrong priorities. We shouldn't even exist. Alpa should be fighting for our demise, not scheduling fee for departure interview session tips seminars.

I feel like everybody is blind to this. Stockholm Syndrome. Alpa enriches themselves at regional pilots expense. Legacy airline pilots enrich themselves at regional pilot expense.

Alpa is like the democratic party. They offer the illusion of bettering yourself but they can't really help you otherwise there would be no reason to exist. They have to keep you down in order to serve a purpose.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
The extenuating circumstance is the broken training program you guys have. His entire class is in the same boat. Impressive how you guys squeeze a 2 month program into 7 months.
The training program isn't broken, it's the number of LCA that are available. But again, paid vacation for most, even if it is at 1st year FO pay.

Originally Posted by FirstClass
Of course I believe it. It explains why things are for the most part "good" at the majors and "sh*tty" at the regionals. Same union, different so called service. Alpa simply doesn't represent the interests of regional pilots. The company literally rapes you while the union is worried about increasing the SSP from 4 to 5.
Have even ever spent any time talking to our reps? There's a lot that goes on that apparently you're not paying attention to. Yes, the company pretty much ignores all PRFs. They're allowed to do that, and we grieve them.
It's always the wrong priorities. We shouldn't even exist. Alpa should be fighting for our demise, not scheduling fee for departure interview session tips seminars.
Hmmm, seems like those seminars could be someone's ticket out of the regionals. But I agree with you that the regionals, as they currently exists, should exist. The next few years is going to be interesting though, and I personally wouldn't be surprised to see 76 (and maybe 60+) seat aircraft at mainline in 4-6 years.

Alpa enriches themselves at regional pilots expense.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Like 2% of your paycheck (which most of the company doesn't even pay as they're first year) is going to make anyone rich. Get real.

Legacy airline pilots enrich themselves at regional pilot expense.
In the mid 90s you may have had a point, but it would appear most Legacy pilot groups are putting their foot down on scope these days. Not surprising as many former RJ guys are now at Legacy carriers.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 10:14 AM
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Well, PSA doesnt seem to be having a shortage of applicants. Looks like after much research and dropping my own 5k on the CTP course, I was declined by PSA. Another guy I interviewed with, who was highly qualified and was also declined.

I cant speculate as to why, but I will say I realize im not gods gift to the airline world, but I only share to shut down the speculation that they are taking everyone that comes through the door.

fwiw, I meet all the ATP requirements, no negative job history, no check ride failures, military veteran with a bachelors degree.

So ive got 6 months to try it again with PSA, or look elsewhere.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
Of course I believe it. It explains why things are for the most part "good" at the majors and "sh*tty" at the regionals. Same union, different so called service. Alpa simply doesn't represent the interests of regional pilots. The company literally rapes you while the union is worried about increasing the SSP from 4 to 5.

It's always the wrong priorities. We shouldn't even exist. Alpa should be fighting for our demise, not scheduling fee for departure interview session tips seminars.

I feel like everybody is blind to this. Stockholm Syndrome. Alpa enriches themselves at regional pilots expense. Legacy airline pilots enrich themselves at regional pilot expense.

Alpa is like the democratic party. They offer the illusion of bettering yourself but they can't really help you otherwise there would be no reason to exist. They have to keep you down in order to serve a purpose.
^^^^^^^^this is spot on. ALPA is in bed with all the major airlines. If Delta or United says no to a TA, does management give there wide bodies away?? Nope! This industry is so disfunctional thanks to the Railroad Labor Act and the broken unions like ALPA. Wanna see waste? Look at how much the ALPA leaders make, $115,000 for the head receptionist? GMAFB, meanwhile they are telling PSA and Envoy that with 12 and 4 everyone wins.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
If Delta or United says no to a TA, does management give there wide bodies away??
You need to take 30 seconds and find three spare brain cells to rub together and think about WHY that is. I'll give you a hint: it has nothing to do with the amount of resources that ALPA uses at mainline vs the regionals.

Mainline pilot groups OWN their flying. If AAG votes down a contract Parker can't call Anderson and have Delta pilots fly the airplanes with American paint on the side, unless American pilots give him that right in a CBA.

There isn't a single FFD carrier that has that kind of leverage.
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