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Old 09-14-2015 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
You are dumb shi$t! I am pointing out that ALPA does nothing for the regionals at all.
Just because ALPA can't make management $hit $kittles in command doesn't mean that ALPA does nothing for the regionals.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
Just because ALPA can't make management $hit $kittles in command doesn't mean that ALPA does nothing for the regionals.
If Envoy came in and announced an 11/3 payscale in order to keep all the CRJ 700s take your CRJ 900s and leave you only with your old shi%tty 200s, all while ALPA backed the deal saying it's the "best thing for everyone" you would feel way different about that 1.95% you pay and what you get to show for it. Unless your name is Mr. Rodriguez, then ALPA will always be the best thing that ever happened to you.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KingAirpilot90
Cool story bro...
Yeah please do call in the experts. Call Miss Piggy, have her beg Mr Parker again for some real flow and bit-ch some more about how your 24 year guaranteed interview program at American just isn't bringing in the new hires anymore.
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Old 09-15-2015 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
Just because they run upgrade classes every two weeks doesn't mean the quick upgrade is there for new hires today. It means the people hired end of last year will upgrade soon. All the new growth captains were already hired. Everyone coming through the doors now are being hired to sling gear for 3 years for the people hired 6 months ago.
You are uninformed. Period.
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Old 09-15-2015 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
Yeah please do call in the experts. Call Miss Piggy, have her beg Mr Parker again for some real flow and bit-ch some more about how your 24 year guaranteed interview program at American just isn't bringing in the new hires anymore.
Lol way to show your lack of class my man. Here's a good one. At your current gig:

1) How long have you been there?
2) When will you Upgrade (If you haven't already)?
3) Flow to a legacy?
4) If there's no flow how long till your preff interview?

It's ok I'll wait...
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Old 09-15-2015 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
If Envoy came in and announced an 11/3 payscale in order to keep all the CRJ 700s take your CRJ 900s and leave you only with your old shi%tty 200s, all while ALPA backed the deal saying it's the "best thing for everyone" you would feel way different about that 1.95% you pay and what you get to show for it. Unless your name is Mr. Rodriguez, then ALPA will always be the best thing that ever happened to you.
Alpa never supported a vote to take someone's airplanes. You've made this up in your head to support your frustration.
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Old 09-15-2015 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Waitingformins
Alpa never supported a vote to take someone's airplanes. You've made this up in your head to support your frustration.
They supported the TA that sent a torpedo into the hull of the industry by undercutting everyone else. Remember how PSA was the only one to not sign that little say no to concessions pact??
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Old 09-15-2015 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
They supported the TA that sent a torpedo into the hull of the industry by undercutting everyone else. Remember how PSA was the only one to not sign that little say no to concessions pact??
Actually we did sign it. PDT didn't.

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Old 09-15-2015 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Theonemarine
Actually we did sign it. PDT didn't.

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Which is why PDT=PSA.
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Old 09-15-2015 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PSAJOBS
You are uninformed. Period.
I will inform you. PSA has currently 86 aircraft with 24 more 900 options and another 38 Envoy CRJs left to transfer. In the end that will give you a fleet count of 148 aircraft. You already have 86 of them, you still have 62 more to go. And that's IF you still get ALL of envoys CRJS. Aspen plus your ability to staff all that flying will be the deciding factor. But let's say you do. A total fleet count of 148 and staffing of 11 pilots per aircraft gives you a total need for 1628 active line pilots. Call it 1800 to have 150 work in the training/recruiting/company. You guys currently have close to 1200 active pilots. You need another 600. Anyone coming through the door today at PSA is going to be in the bottom 33% of the seniority list. That means you are hiring long term FOs at this point. With no flow, and an interview of 4 a month, which I hear last month didn't go well for 2 individuals interviewing, then that means there is going to be a very long upgrade for anyone coming through the door once this place stagnates and settles down with its final pilot count. And even if you are loosing 10 Captains a month to the majors, you are still looking at a 3 plus year upgrade for anyone hired today. I mean with your training center, it will take 7 or 8 months just to get through IOE. And then with SAP not working out like it should, being a bottom FO on reserve not flying much, it might take 3 years just to get the 1000 SIC from date of hire.
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