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Old 09-11-2015 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PSAJOBS
Again I ask to show me. Not hard if it's out there.
I thought that was common knowledge? Oh well, they'll tell you guys soon enough.
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Old 09-11-2015 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mr25cents
I thought that was common knowledge? Oh well, they'll tell you guys soon enough.
Yet every time I commute on PSA, it seems to be another ex-Envoy aircraft. It must be magic, the airplanes aren't going but yet they are. Denial is reality I guess...god those fabric seats are terrible too.
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Old 09-11-2015 | 08:04 AM
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They've never said anything about stopping the transfer of the first 12. Its the remaining 35 that will stay through 2018.
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Old 09-11-2015 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
Yet every time I commute on PSA, it seems to be another ex-Envoy aircraft. It must be magic, the airplanes aren't going but yet they are. Denial is reality I guess...god those fabric seats are terrible too.
Fabric seats?
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Old 09-11-2015 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ex lurker
The whipsaw days are over.
For the near future, yes. But remember, the CEOs of these companies are thinking 10, 20, 30 years in the future. Why do they just offer bonuses instead of just increasing pay? Why does Parker offer flows or guaranteed interviews instead of just bringing the regionals into the mainline fold? They know eventually, all the retiring mainline pilots will have been replaced, and all the movement (over a decade or more) will attract a whole new generation of pilots hoping to move quickly to mainline but eventually the music will stop. When that time comes, they will attempt to regain the cheap regional labor model that they have enjoyed for the last 20 years.

Mark my words, in 15 - 20 years, when all the mainline retirements stop, you will see a regrowth of the regional feed while mainline seniority lists stagnates.
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Old 09-11-2015 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Ex lurker
Fabric seats?
Yeah they are the old style seats, not totally vinyl/leather wrapped. The big eagle mascot on the front left bulkhead really completes the prize...not sure why they kept that. The airplane could be newer than the stock PSA 7s, I really have no idea and could care less, except for those damn seats.
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Old 09-11-2015 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by airlinegypsy
From our 8/14 News Blast:

While he had nothing definitive to announce, Pappaioanou [VP-Legal] said Envoy is working all possible angles to perhaps secure the new aircraft AAG is purchasing for delivery to carriers who can’t provide adequate staffing. He also said Envoy has the crews to make CRJ-700 aircraft productive at Envoy into 2018 and maybe longer.
This just says "We have enough crews" there is nothing that says "we are keeping those acft".
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Old 09-11-2015 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
This just says "We have enough crews" there is nothing that says "we are keeping those acft".
See above post

Last edited by airlinegypsy; 09-11-2015 at 10:40 AM. Reason: bad link
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Old 09-11-2015 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by airlinegypsy
I quoted your post......
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Old 09-11-2015 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PSAJOBS
All the -700's are slated to be at PSA by the end of 2017.
Jeez, you just want our planes soooo bad! You PSA guys are really unbelievable. At least you're living up to the notorious reputation your pilot group has.
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