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#2141
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Read it again.
Not after block in unless you are given 10 hours rest.
Modified before...yes they can.
They are not doing it before. They do it when you call to check out...well after block in.
Another reactionary policy...only this one is not just crappy it is illegal.
Not after block in unless you are given 10 hours rest.
Modified before...yes they can.
They are not doing it before. They do it when you call to check out...well after block in.
Another reactionary policy...only this one is not just crappy it is illegal.
#2142
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Keep in mind the Q&A is ALPA's interpretation of the actual reg. Support your claim with that instead.
#2143
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Growth and new hires means less reserve, quicker upgrades, better schedules and the ability to flow more to American creating and overall better QOL for every one. I guess you consider going from zero 121 time to a line holding captain in 3 years taking it in the rear. I tend to think of it as better overall QOL, pay and career progression but hey what do I know. Ask our 3 years CA if they will trade their place with an Endeavor pilot.
#2144
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Not that it matters.
PS (Both of you are right) Something needs to change, but AAs complete disregard for bargaining in good faith and our pilot group not having any leverage as long as someone (any other regional) exists that can do the flying cheaper than us or the same cost theres really nothing that can change.
Of course unless AA grows a heart ( like the Grinch).
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https://far117understanding.files.wo...17_feb2015.pdf
Also, read 12.C.4 of the contract.
#2147
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To answer this again, realize that the file you linked to is the 1st edition of ALPA's Guide to 117. Check out question 97 in the third edition:
https://far117understanding.files.wo...17_feb2015.pdf
Also, read 12.C.4 of the contract.
https://far117understanding.files.wo...17_feb2015.pdf
Also, read 12.C.4 of the contract.
Read question 98.
Basic contract law-Void if illegal.
Same fact pattern, still illegal
#2148
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http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/agc/pol_adjudication/agc200/part117/Part117_Interps/Part117ByReg/
Far 117 has been watered down quite a bit with interpretations. Take a look for yourself. ALPA is on revision 3 of their guide. More revisions to come most likely.
Far 117 has been watered down quite a bit with interpretations. Take a look for yourself. ALPA is on revision 3 of their guide. More revisions to come most likely.
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But at the same time remember that that document is an ALPA interpretation of 117 and it's later FAA interpretations. If you want to keep playing this game that support your position with actual regulation and FAA interpretations instead. The Anderson letter is real interesting reading.
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