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Old 04-13-2016 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84
So according to your logic, one is either a snot-nosed kid or a geezer who can't get any other job...got it! I'm curious...as someone who took a job with a regional that has an awful reputation for screwing over other pilots, where do you fall in? Especially with your constant whining on here. You're clearly active on APC, so you could see the notorious reputation that PSA has built for itself over the past couple of years.
I don't care about the PSA reputation with other regionals. They're just the latest to "undermine the industry" just like every other regional has done. I'll let you in on a secret, no one at the majors care where you came from. The HR people doing the hiring really don't care. You're not in high school anymore.

I wanted a East Coast airline with cheap bases. PSA was on par when I started here and I held a line out of IOE. No one else could offer that. I'm here to adjust from military flying to 121 flying and with a few more hours I'll move on. But you stay wrapped up in the drama. Call me a whiner, couldn't care less. It just highlights your lack of reading comprehension. And no, there's more to the spectrum than just the extreme of old geezer, which you try to portray with all your newbie comments, and a young snot nosed insecure kids, such as yourself. Maybe if you quit trying to be something you're not on an anonymous forum, people wouldn't assume the wrong thing. Try not calling people newbie until you've been out of mom and dad's house for at least 10 years and have adulted for at least 5.
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Old 04-13-2016 | 05:52 PM
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You'll also notice I rarely post on other company threads. You should try it. There's a hose job that needs to sold on the Envoy thread to grease your flow. Good job looking out for those after you. Way to raise the standard and expectations of the industry.
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Old 04-13-2016 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyWago
We'll happily take them back.



Welcome to the party of getting lied to BTW. How does it feel to not get what you guys want? Once one WO takes a deal not like AAG is gonna feel bad for the other ones if they don't want it. Oh we want everyone to have a bonus!, AAG will just look at the ENY-er's and say they took it so thats the deal.



Think back to everything all 3 WO's recieved in the last year. 135/121 bonus, Cadet Program, signing money, ipads, on and on.


The deal never included yalls 700's.....
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Old 04-13-2016 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
You'll also notice I rarely post on other company threads. You should try it. There's a hose job that needs to sold on the Envoy thread to grease your flow. Good job looking out for those after you. Way to raise the standard and expectations of the industry.
Oh my friend, your rambling couldn't be further from the truth. I also, rarely post on other companies threads. However when the oppurtunity to highlight the scummy things that PSA did to the entire industry, it's hard to resist.

Look out for those behind me and raiding standards and expectations of the industry?? You need to brush up on your history. I don't call out PSA pilots for fun, I call them out because what they did screwed over A LOT of pilots, myself included. They're the ones who set the industry back in a time when there was finally some forward momentum.

Anyway, I'm done with you. Good luck getting your time and moving on, because you're going to need it with that whiney attitude of yours.
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Old 04-13-2016 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84
Oh my friend, your rambling couldn't be further from the truth. I also, rarely post on other companies threads. However when the oppurtunity to highlight the scummy things that PSA did to the entire industry, it's hard to resist.

Look out for those behind me and raiding standards and expectations of the industry?? You need to brush up on your history. I don't call out PSA pilots for fun, I call them out because what they did screwed over A LOT of pilots, myself included. They're the ones who set the industry back in a time when there was finally some forward momentum.

Anyway, I'm done with you. Good luck getting your time and moving on, because you're going to need it with that whiney attitude of yours.
Yes the virtuous Eagle. History exists farther back than your time there. The world doesn't revolve around you cupcake. I know that's a difficult concept for the participation award generation. Learn the history of the entire industry. It's summarized in honor among wh ores. I appreciate your concern but I'll be just fine. Sorry your jealous my life decisions put me in a better place. Life's not fair but it's not your fault you didn't learn that growing up. Best of luck. You'll need it. Now run along to the Envoy thread or 15, whatever it's up to now.

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Old 04-13-2016 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WakeWash
This petty bickering between the WOs is getting really old. We are all being played against each other and it's so obvious. But it's covered up by this stupid arguing and fighting that AAG is loving it and benefiting from it. Our MEC chairs have figured this out and are finally starting to work together for the better. Why can't the pilot groups realize this and quit the BS, and finally start coming together and backing each other up for once. Be the difference and make it start happening, now. Otherwise pilots will continue to lose while everyone else wins.


Agreed. It's kind of embarrassing reading some of my fellow Envoy pilots rooting for bad things to happen at other airlines. It's trashy and unbecoming. It's time to stop the blame game and band together. The past is in the past. The future will be better for all the WO's of we work together. Much easier said than done, as you can see by the emotions on display in this thread.
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Old 04-13-2016 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by WakeWash
This petty bickering between the WOs is getting really old. We are all being played against each other and it's so obvious. But it's covered up by this stupid arguing and fighting that AAG is loving it and benefiting from it. Our MEC chairs have figured this out and are finally starting to work together for the better. Why can't the pilot groups realize this and quit the BS, and finally start coming together and backing each other up for once. Be the difference and make it start happening, now. Otherwise pilots will continue to lose while everyone else wins.
If you're not a psa pilot, disregard, but if you are, are you f-ing serious? Everyone was tying to band together years ago when the psa pilot group sold all regional pilots out knowing exactly what they were doing. And now that you're quick upgradezzzzz isn't working out as planned you want to band together? Go f yourself. You made your bed, now it's time to lay in it
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Old 04-13-2016 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
If you're not a psa pilot, disregard, but if you are, are you f-ing serious? Everyone was tying to band together years ago when the psa pilot group sold all regional pilots out knowing exactly what they were doing. And now that you're quick upgradezzzzz isn't working out as planned you want to band together? Go f yourself. You made your bed, now it's time to lay in it
Whole Heartily agree. Now that the gravy train has gained lots of viscosity, we now should band together and sing songs. Don't think that will happen anytime soon.
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Old 04-13-2016 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
If you're not a psa pilot, disregard, but if you are, are you f-ing serious? Everyone was tying to band together years ago when the psa pilot group sold all regional pilots out knowing exactly what they were doing. And now that you're quick upgradezzzzz isn't working out as planned you want to band together? Go f yourself. You made your bed, now it's time to lay in it
This a million of times! Envoy FOs lost about $80k waiting for upgrade for two years, because PSA voted yes.

Now that the times are not that good, you guys want to stick together?
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Old 04-13-2016 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
This a million of times! Envoy FOs lost about $80k waiting for upgrade for two years, because PSA voted yes.



Now that the times are not that good, you guys want to stick together?


Where are the stats on this?

How many 145's were given away to other carriers.
We have 12 or less of your crappy planes that weren't apart of the deal that was signed. No one knew.

Y'all signed your contract for more shiny jets too and your industry leading retention bonus with a "me too" clause for when we get something better.
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