They get trashed because you start 15 announcing some garbage "big announcement" that really isn't or drone on and on about the "6 year flow." No one posts on your threads wishing the death of your airline or your jobs. You guys really are special little flowers.

 

Envoy is a cancer that must be destroyed. They voted in concessions 4x in a row, of course they'll try to mask their actions in bankruptcy rhetoric but their actions are to blame for the mess the entire industry is in. If they could have just held the line, yes, they might have went out of business, but it would have been the catalyst for the re-integration of regional/contract flying back into mainline.

Now we have pilots like Wakewash saying stupid sh|t like

" The union is now new people who don't carry the ideals of the old guys."

He still thinks the path forward is a bigger and stronger regional feed system instead of a shrinking and dying one where the flying is reabsorbed into mainline and the B scale dies the death it deserves.

You guys better wake the F up. If you think things like "Fee for departure Interview classes" put on by your so called union are good things, you are the problem.

 

The same can be said for every regional pilot ever. The industry was started in order to undercut pilots. Every regional has undercut someone at some time. Keep telling yourself you're thinking about anyone else, their family or career when you vote. Who took the bonus when the other 2 said no and added a "me too" clause? Maybe your lack of negotiating abilities and relying on others to do the work (or blaming them) is why you are where you are.

 

Who is JM?

 

You are. Or are you going to try and make believe after last weeks little forum postings that you are not working in the PSA union- you're just some random poster from PSA now.

You knew enough to say that there is no President but you don't know enough to say who JM is ok. You're not fooling anyone.

 

No, I'm just someone who actually decided to do a little learning about the RLA beyond the fact that pilot groups can't engage in self help without release, which is where 99.99% of the participants here stop learning about the RLA.

It's really not hard to find the information and actual case law if one was actually interested, and you don't even have to limit yourself to ALPA material.

So you think I'm the "union president" who is JM, but you've also called for TR to step down based on your lack of understanding of labor law, so apparently at some point you actually learned that we have a new MEC (which doesn't include a President), but I guess just forgot when you started thinking I'm JM.

Again, stick to being a troll; you're better at it.

 

Thanks for that, you fell right into that nicely.

 

Whatever dude.

 

[QUOTE=1stCivDivPilot;2109610]The same can be said for every regional pilot ever. The industry was started in order to undercut pilots. Every regional has undercut someone at some point.

It's kind of funny to watch undercutting regional pilots get mad at other undercutting regional pilots for undercutting.

 

Say the people not in Bankruptcy that decided to shaft everyone else out there. But I don't put all the blame with the small minded PSA puppets. Part of that blame has to put on ALPA's ahiulder gor signing off on said deal that all "10" pilots at PSA voted for.

Saying "we were only protecting our jobs" is a reason everyone could use so why did you guys say yes since you are giving Eagle so much Sh!t about a contract while AMR was in Bankruptcy.