At what point during your envoy interview did you realize that you weren't going to be offered the job?

 

http://www.alpa.org/about-alpa/our-leadership/national-officers/captain-canoll

 

this thread is unreal. FirstClass does not speak for the pilot group and its pretty obvious that not many stand by what he says. And you few envoy guys are just bitter at the wrong people. 50 guys are maybe what's left from those yes voters. The rest are new people. Most are guys getting into the industry that went to the current happening regional. Others are Comair or endeavor guys who have experienced bankruptcies and mergers, and were either out of jobs or never going to see the left seat at the time after spending 8 years there. Of course they went to the place to further their caree. There isn't a single pilot who said I came here to undercut pilots, or even the "shiny" 900. Everyone who wanted shiny planes was going to republic cause omg that 175 is just so amazing. Find me one person who came here for any of those reasons. The union is now new people who don't carry the ideals of the old guys. If you want to be ****ed at the old MEC for not standing with the rest then be my guest. But PSA is a new airline with new views, whether you want to admit it or not. Have I ever wanted tho throw an eagle guy jumpseatinf out of the plane for talking crap? Absolutely. But I am a professional and I treat my brethren with respect, not matter how I feel about them. Man up, let the past go, and start working with each other to better the industry. Continuing bashing and pointing fingers like you are, BOTH PSA AND ENVOY PILOTS, makes you all look childish and pathetic. Grow up.

 

Please show me where PSA ALPA has a President.

 

And you should take that up withthe fictional APC mods. Every ENY discussion gets trashed, so what makes your flaming-hate ENY thread special that we can't post in it?

 

They voted yes with their feet supporting an undercutting airline. Just cause they didn't cast a ballot on the matter doesn't mean they get to wash their hands of the matter.

 

Dumbest thought process I've ever seen. Seriously. I shouldn't try out for the Yankees or patriots because most of the league hates them and they cheated or "undercut" everyone. Instead I'll go to the Indians or Browns because I'll look better to the narrow minded people. Might not be better for my career or what I want for my own personal reasons, but at least I'll look better to other people!!! I could go on with other examples cause I'm sure you're gonna say not the same. But it is

 

And you think Athletes have a choice the majority of time where they go? (Drafted and traded constantly ) Pilots had a choice on where their apps go and which interviews they went to.

 

The PSA MEC has a Master Chairman, not a president. If he was referring to the Master Chairman as president then he is incorrect.

 

Free agency and open tryouts is what is was referring to. Figured it would be easy to pick up ok that but guess not.