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04-13-2016 | 09:32 PM
#2251
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Where are the stats on this?
How many 145's were given away to other carriers.
We have 12 or less of your crappy planes that weren't apart of the deal that was signed. No one knew.
Y'all signed your contract for more shiny jets too and your industry leading retention bonus with a "me too" clause for when we get something better.
How many 145's were given away to other carriers.
We have 12 or less of your crappy planes that weren't apart of the deal that was signed. No one knew.
Y'all signed your contract for more shiny jets too and your industry leading retention bonus with a "me too" clause for when we get something better.
15 to Xjet = 97.5 CA seats
15 TSA = 97.5 CA seats
12 PSA = 78 CA seats
20 Compass = 130 CA seats
3 PDT so far = 19.5 CA seat
Total = 422.5 CA Seats lost since Jan 2014
With those numbers all the guys until about half of 2011 hires were supposed to be CAs by 2013. Which it also match the 2012 PSA guys that are CAs now...
All because PSA couldn't stand together. It was a snow ball effect related to the contract war between AAG and envoy fighting to keep the BK contract.
What all this accomplished? A couple of things...
-as the envoy pilots said before, neither TSA, RAH, PSA, PDT can't staff the flying. It took 2 years and pilot shuffling from regional to regional, but is here.
- AAG loss 1,200 pilots between flow, guys moving to other regionals and LCC at envoy.
- AAG now is giving money for people to come at us + the retention bonus. Also the money they still own 3/4 of the FOs here (5k in 2017, by the 2014 contract).
-AAG moving flying back to envoy, due to others unable to staff their contracts.
-People preffering to go RAH, Mesa, TSA, Commutair. Instead of coming at PSA/PDT/ENY.
04-14-2016 | 04:44 AM
#2252
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Joined: Apr 2015
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From: king air
This petty bickering between the WOs is getting really old. We are all being played against each other and it's so obvious. But it's covered up by this stupid arguing and fighting that AAG is loving it and benefiting from it. Our MEC chairs have figured this out and are finally starting to work together for the better. Why can't the pilot groups realize this and quit the BS, and finally start coming together and backing each other up for once. Be the difference and make it start happening, now. Otherwise pilots will continue to lose while everyone else wins.
04-14-2016 | 05:09 AM
#2253
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Why can't you just accept AA treats psa better for a reason. You guys are inferior over there, if you can accept that, then you'll feel less of a need to come over to this thread and post your nonsensical musings.
04-14-2016 | 05:11 AM
#2254
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You say that like its a bad thing? The only pilots were interested in screwing over is Envoy pilots. They continue to lower the bar by voting in concessions 4x in a row. You are getting everything you deserve and we are always happy to stick a knife in your back.
04-14-2016 | 05:13 AM
#2255
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I don't care about the PSA reputation with other regionals. They're just the latest to "undermine the industry" just like every other regional has done. I'll let you in on a secret, no one at the majors care where you came from. The HR people doing the hiring really don't care. You're not in high school anymore.
I wanted a East Coast airline with cheap bases. PSA was on par when I started here and I held a line out of IOE. No one else could offer that. I'm here to adjust from military flying to 121 flying and with a few more hours I'll move on. But you stay wrapped up in the drama. Call me a whiner, couldn't care less. It just highlights your lack of reading comprehension. And no, there's more to the spectrum than just the extreme of old geezer, which you try to portray with all your newbie comments, and a young snot nosed insecure kids, such as yourself. Maybe if you quit trying to be something you're not on an anonymous forum, people wouldn't assume the wrong thing. Try not calling people newbie until you've been out of mom and dad's house for at least 10 years and have adulted for at least 5.
I wanted a East Coast airline with cheap bases. PSA was on par when I started here and I held a line out of IOE. No one else could offer that. I'm here to adjust from military flying to 121 flying and with a few more hours I'll move on. But you stay wrapped up in the drama. Call me a whiner, couldn't care less. It just highlights your lack of reading comprehension. And no, there's more to the spectrum than just the extreme of old geezer, which you try to portray with all your newbie comments, and a young snot nosed insecure kids, such as yourself. Maybe if you quit trying to be something you're not on an anonymous forum, people wouldn't assume the wrong thing. Try not calling people newbie until you've been out of mom and dad's house for at least 10 years and have adulted for at least 5.
04-14-2016 | 05:52 AM
#2260
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This petty bickering between the WOs is getting really old. We are all being played against each other and it's so obvious. But it's covered up by this stupid arguing and fighting that AAG is loving it and benefiting from it. Our MEC chairs have figured this out and are finally starting to work together for the better. Why can't the pilot groups realize this and quit the BS, and finally start coming together and backing each other up for once. Be the difference and make it start happening, now. Otherwise pilots will continue to lose while everyone else wins.
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