Slick111

Realistically, you'll have either a Cincinnati or Dayton base for about 1 year,..... and you'll be on reserve the entire time. Then, right about the time you're able to hold a round two line, you'll be senior enough to change your base to Charlotte,...... where you'll again be back on reserve for the better part of another year.

We're hiring about 7 pilots a month and losing about 15 pilots a month. In my opinion, movement will be slow for the foreseeable future.

Throttlebender

Another one of the guys in my class, March 28th, got TYS as his first choice a couple of weeks ago. He's also still on IOE.

SEPfield

The letter about the bonus from the union is out.

I would like to say that I think it is a very well worded letter that addresses many of our concerns.

That being said I would judge the general tone of the email to be one of resignation and exasperation. It is very clear from this email that the company has no intention of improving anything of substance at PSA. Whether this lack of improvement is the decision of PSA management or as a result of being hamstrung by AAG management is irrelevant. The email implies to me that if there were any of us here at PSA that were still holding on to the small shred of hope that someday things might get better, then we should let go of that hope and accept things as they are. We now have 2 choices; resignation From the company or resignation to our fate. Good luck to all.

272922

The bottom line is this: in the last two years the economic justification for a first year pay in the FFD segment of $25 has evaporated. We're now seeing a movement towards compensation that's the equivalent of $40+ per hour.

There is no escaping, denying, nor sidestepping this new reality. There's no going back to the past when pilots were a dime a dozen and would show up for whatever compensation you decided to offer.

The longer AAG tries to hold it's WO'd carriers to the economic realities of yesterday, the longer those carriers will continue to suffer for lack of pilots. New hires will simply not show up and stick around, as the data in TR's letter has evidenced.

In the long term, they'll probably figure it out, but only inch by inch. As the market continues to change there will be some advantage to being WO, but for now that advantage is out in the future and not today.

Slick111

From my perspective, it's gonna be a long, hot summer of two engine taxi and extensive a.p.u. burns. If the don't value me, I have no reason to value them.

FlexNinja

I got hired in January, and a guy from my class is already Rd1 in Dayton. With one more Rd2. A couple are slated to goto CLT, just hasnt taken effect yet. Depending on the growth, you will likely be able to hold anything but CLT right out of training, with CLT following in a few months. What the line holding situation will look like then is anyones guess. No one can predict that. But essentially, its right about 6 months from date of hire to hold a line.. at least in Dayton.

Systemized

Anyone hovering the boards with questions about PSA and don't want to post on here, send me a pm and I'll do my best to answer questions.

jetflyer123

I agree with you that it is well written, but have to disagree that we should let go of all hope just yet. I am not one to be pro-union, but I have to say that so far TR has maintained my respect as MEC. Although I wasn't thrilled about his retention bonus announcement, I believe the guy has a plan and is definitely putting up a fight for all of us here. I am not going to say that I am overly optimistic that anything will come of it, but will say that I am slightly hopeful that there is still a chance we will see improvement one way or another. Maybe nothing will happen, but at least I feel like we have the right guy in there for once... We shall see

penaltybox

Because it needs to be reiterated. A newhire will make over $5200 LESS on second year pay at min guarantee.

Pilot Sharp

Not seeing this according to seniority list published 4 days ago!

Fact: most junior FO Charlotte based new hire date 26 Oct 2015 as published in 10 June 2016 PSA pilot seniority list.