You got flow, so no more money for any w/o's.

 

You can stop drooling, if they haven't fixed envoys big stagnation problem they for damn sure aren't going to fix PSAs meager stagnation issue.

 

No, of course theyre not going to fix it. If they were going to, they would have already. I was simply making the statement about growth benefiting the current pilots on property, as some seem to think its better for the company to stagnate.

They caused the backlog, which caused the stagnation, then they sat on their hands for 4+ months barely hiring any new FO's and thought that announcing 1000 pilots in 2 years would get the engine fire back up. People stopping coming as soon as the upgrades stopped. Any dope can see that. People were coming here in droves before the flow, so that is obviously not the big draw. Upgrades Upgrades Upgrades.

 

A Ponzi scheme works too until it loses new money/investors/suckers.




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that is the flow, that is the quick upgrade. once stopped be careful not to backslide into the f/o seat.

 

AAG got PBS at AA and will add major efficiency once implemented. Delta and United both have PBS and so do most regionals. AAG and previously AMR have wanted PBS at Envoy for years and they have language for it. The push is coming at PSA.

AAG through PSA management will make an offer for some contractual improves and flow increase in exchange for PBS. The MEC will put it out to a vote. The offer doesn't have to be amazing but a 9/month flow and better min-day/duty rig/premium pay could get a 51% yes vote. The per pilot cost would increase slightly but each pilot becomes more efficient to the company and it ends up being an overall savings for the company due to less pilots per block hours required.

Don't expect anything from our union now though, they will keep everything tight lipped until it's time to vote. People will be very upset about the idea of getting rid of the SAP line bidding for PBS and therefore the union won't say anything until a LOA is ready to review right before a vote. Why did the last survey mention PBS? Because it's coming...

 

I say go ahead and bargain away the SAP. Management has essentially rendered it useless for most of us anyway. SAP has become more of a recruiting tool for management and less of a quality of life enhancement tool for the pilot group.

 

The company just announced FOUR upgrades for July!

At that rate, assuming only half of our f/o's stick around long enough to upgrade, this week's new hires can expect to upgrade in 5.7 years!

I guess managements assertion that no first officer would ever be affected by the 4 year pay cap, (unless he chose to skip upgrade), was wrong.

 

FO that I am flying with today has been here 20 months. At the current rate, he is 15 months away from upgrade.

So, people hired in 2014 have a 3 year upgrade.

People hired today will likely not upgrade for 6 years.

 

When is the CBA up for renegotiation , 2023?