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Old 06-06-2016 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cosgr
Most junior FO in TYS is a Mar '16 hire, FYI. You should be able to get it soon after IOE. CLT is a Oct '15 hire.
Thanks for the heads up. Both a 2 hr drive for me..
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Old 06-06-2016 | 03:48 PM
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Most junior CLT FO is a March 28th '16 new hire.
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Old 06-06-2016 | 04:00 PM
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Friends don't let friends work at PSA...this place is miserable...get ready
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Old 06-06-2016 | 04:38 PM
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You guys are all doom and gloom. Besides FO pay this place really isn't bad. I feel like the people really hating on here are trying to scare people away so we can't fill classes and have more leverage in negotiations.
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Old 06-06-2016 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies67
You guys are all doom and gloom. Besides FO pay this place really isn't bad. I feel like the people really hating on here are trying to scare people away so we can't fill classes and have more leverage in negotiations.
And management is having recruiters lie to people just to get them to come here so that THEY have more leverage in negotiations.

The truth is that this place isn't aweful. It's just that there are so many BETTER options for potential new hires.

The pay is undeniably at the bottom of the regional airline payscale, (for F/O's and Captains), and the upgrades have slowed to a trickle,........ (just like the "flow").

The only reason to come to PSA is if you happen to live in (or within driving distance of) CLT, DAY, TYS, or CVG.
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Old 06-06-2016 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick111
And management is having recruiters lie to people just to get them to come here so that THEY have more leverage in negotiations.

The truth is that this place isn't aweful. It's just that there are so many BETTER options for potential new hires.

The pay is undeniably at the bottom of the regional airline payscale, (for F/O's and Captains), and the upgrades have slowed to a trickle,........ (just like the "flow").

The only reason to come to PSA is if you happen to live in (or within driving distance of) CLT, DAY, TYS, or CVG.
There is no other regional with any of the same bases as PSA. CLT is the best hub in the southeast for commuters. ATL is good too but the only regional with an ATL base is the ASA side of expressjet which has a 9 year upgrade. First year pay is about 1/3 of deal when considering a regional and it's not bad at PSA when you factor in the 10K bonus. Upgrade time and bases make up the other 2/3s. Upgrade is holding steady at about 2-2.5 years at PSA which is respectable.
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Old 06-07-2016 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
There is no other regional with any of the same bases as PSA. CLT is the best hub in the southeast for commuters. ATL is good too but the only regional with an ATL base is the ASA side of expressjet which has a 9 year upgrade. First year pay is about 1/3 of deal when considering a regional and it's not bad at PSA when you factor in the 10K bonus. Upgrade time and bases make up the other 2/3s. Upgrade is holding steady at about 2-2.5 years at PSA which is respectable.


You are correct about the 2-2.5 upgrade at the moment. But let's face the truth it will increase as a lot of the new hires came in big groups during the fall. The upgrade will increase if upgrade classes don't get larger. If we can't hire FO's then we can't upgrade.
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Old 06-07-2016 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
You are correct about the 2-2.5 upgrade at the moment. But let's face the truth it will increase as a lot of the new hires came in big groups during the fall. The upgrade will increase if upgrade classes don't get larger. If we can't hire FO's then we can't upgrade.
The union is going to sign a LOA allowing the company to right seat qualify all captains. The company will then upgrade more (keeping upgrade times low) knowing they can put reserve captains in the right seat if they are out of reserve FOs. The company needs short upgrade times for recruiting. The company needs to remain at 115 planes, use the Envoy 700s as 200 replacements and reduce it's presence in the northeast while taking over all the MIA AA regional flying with MIA crew base, recruiting problem solved.
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Old 06-07-2016 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
The union is going to sign a LOA allowing the company to right seat qualify all captains. The company will then upgrade more (keeping upgrade times low) knowing they can put reserve captains in the right seat if they are out of reserve FOs. The company needs short upgrade times for recruiting. The company needs to remain at 115 planes, use the Envoy 700s as 200 replacements and reduce it's presence in the northeast while taking over all the MIA AA regional flying with MIA crew base, recruiting problem solved.


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Old 06-07-2016 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
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The MIA part is just my recommendation to management. We are the only ones with a CLT base and if we take the MIA base from Republic and become the only regional with a MIA base, it would help. 150 fleet is never going to happen because of the tight market for new hires. When 150 was announced, PSA had 25+ in every new hire class and they didn't see the brick wall coming. 115 long term is more realistic and 700/900s are the longer term A/C not the 200s.
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