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Old 08-09-2016 | 05:52 AM
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Old 08-09-2016 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
you forgot the envoy crj700's psa is salivating over also, they took concessions for those also.
Too bad your MEC gave up rights to any of your aircraft in exchange for creating the Protected Pilots.
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Old 08-09-2016 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
you forgot the envoy crj700's psa is salivating over also, they took concessions for those also.
That's not how that happened. We never voted for your 700s and they were never part of the deal. But go ahead and ignore facts and keep in trolling.
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Old 08-09-2016 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
you forgot the envoy crj700's psa is salivating over also, they took concessions for those also.
In addition, XJET is getting Envoy 145's as well as PDT but you dont hear any *****ing about that. So, evidently, Envoy and AA have some issues they need to work out. If you think one regional can "take" jets away from another, it clearly shows how little you know about business in general.

Envoy has been delt a ****ty hand recently, but its no one elses fault except American Airlines.
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Old 08-09-2016 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
Our contract is really pretty good. I wouldn't trade it for any other regional contract. The SAP is the best QOL tool in the regionals. The critical pay part is great if followed. Our reserve is better than most. The 1/2 pay for DH sucks, but that is a small price to pay. And personally, I won't fly trips that have DHs, so problem solved. I just SAP out of them.

Anyone that says otherwise is a fool and doesn't know what is really happening in the regionals. PSA has been accused of a bad contract, but that is just ignorance.

The problem is that the company does not follow the contract. They change things, and leave us to grieve them, which takes years.

AAG and regional management is the problem.
You left out pay caps, increased health care costs, horrible schedules,etc. Sounds like maybe you either are a recruiter or need to be one.
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Old 08-09-2016 | 08:02 AM
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The August 1st new hire class had 4 FOs and 1 ground instructor.
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Old 08-09-2016 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
The August 1st new hire class had 4 FOs and 1 ground instructor.
Good...........
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Old 08-09-2016 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FlexNinja
In addition, XJET is getting Envoy 145's as well as PDT but you dont hear any *****ing about that. So, evidently, Envoy and AA have some issues they need to work out. If you think one regional can "take" jets away from another, it clearly shows how little you know about business in general.

Envoy has been delt a ****ty hand recently, but its no one elses fault except American Airlines.
The 145s are coming back to Envoy from Xjet. And for the record, I don't have any disdain for PSA and neither do most line pilots at Envoy. Most of the hate seems to be online. Yes, PSA was the scapegoat for all the troubles in 2014..but most of that has passed now.

These days we are all unified in hate towards the same airline: Mesa. Include me in that list as well.
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Old 08-09-2016 | 08:55 AM
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Envoy doesn't own airplanes. We are an employee contracting company. It's just that PSA was making a deal on the side while everyone else was taking a stand against concessions for airplanes.
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Old 08-09-2016 | 09:23 AM
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The only good news we will probably hear soon is we won't have to carry our backup charts. Anyone know the exact date?
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