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Old 08-30-2016 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
If PSA pilots win their critical pay arbitration, we will be some of the highest paid pilots in the regionals. That should help with attracting new hires again.
The Glory Days of the SAP are never coming back. Some Grand Bargain will be struck at some point.

In other news, been hearing about a lot of guys getting calls from Delta.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 08:27 AM
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The Glory Days of the SAP are never coming back. Some Grand Bargain will be struck at some point.

In other news, been hearing about a lot of guys getting calls from Delta.
I agree that it will never be as good as it was. PSA pilots were the highest paid pilots in all of the regionals. But there will have to be an acceptable compromise. The arbitrator will have to agree to that.

My guess it that it will involve better min day credit, increased flow numbers for those on property now (not dependent on total number of pilots), and some other improved QOL issues.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
I agree that it will never be as good as it was. PSA pilots were the highest paid pilots in all of the regionals. But there will have to be an acceptable compromise. The arbitrator will have to agree to that.

My guess it that it will involve better min day credit, increased flow numbers for those on property now (not dependent on total number of pilots), and some other improved QOL issues.
When is the PSA CBA up for renewal ? I thought it was a ten year deal.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 09:05 AM
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When is the PSA CBA up for renewal ? I thought it was a ten year deal.
Which means absolutely nothing if both sides agree to an LOA.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 12:04 PM
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How are they "hunks of junk"? As far as I'm concerned, they're pretty well maintained and suit the purpose just fine. In fact, next-gen or retro, I can guarantee no pilots here really care which one they're flying that day.

You guys really are all about new and shiny toys! I started my career here in a 20 year old ATR and had a blast!
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Old 08-30-2016 | 12:16 PM
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How are they "hunks of junk"? As far as I'm concerned, they're pretty well maintained and suit the purpose just fine. In fact, next-gen or retro, I can guarantee no pilots here really care which one they're flying that day.

You guys really are all about new and shiny toys! I started my career here in a 20 year old ATR and had a blast!
In comparison to other places that I have flown, the Envoy 700's are about average. Compared to the PSA 700's, they are pieces of junk.

The Envoy 700's seem to always have significant problems, and lots of MEL's. They are bent, do not fly straight, require signifiant trimming, and are just worn in general. It is not uncommon to have 3-4 MEL's on one of those. In comparison, it is rare to have more than 1 MEL in a PSA airplane, and I have gone several trips with never flying a 700 or a 900 with any MEL's at all.

So, in comparison, the Envoy 700's are junk.

I do care what airplane I fly when it means more work. No one wants to see an airplane with the APU deferred, or the FMS in-op, or the only lav not working.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 12:25 PM
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Wow. That's all I have to say.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84
Wow. That's all I have to say.


The next gen fly fine. It's the older models that are bad when hand flying. Just turn the AP on bra
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Old 08-30-2016 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
The next gen fly fine. It's the older models that are bad when hand flying. Just turn the AP on bra
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Old 08-30-2016 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
AP Left Wing Down
God forbid...
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