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05-14-2016 | 03:48 AM
#2851
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From: CL65
I truly like PSA. I've seen the lowest of lows here, but I can honestly say it's come a long way and things are much better. Two topics which need to be addressed are: accuracy of paychecks and contract compliance. The recent $20,000 bonus for current/active FOs was wonderful - a great incentive to keep them around a little longer, and will enable them to drop flying while maintaining or even gaining a little pay. They can even delay upgrade for a year or so and be paid about the same as if they had upgraded.
Anyway, I occasionally like PSA. Usually it is just after a good overnight, with a good crew, on a nice sunny morning. Then, something "PSA" happens and it ruins everything. Sometimes it is payroll screwing up my paycheck and short paying me AGAIN. Other times, it is our D.O. calling and threatening pilots into working when they are not legal to do so. Another time it is seeing an FO get displaced off of a line that they hold and put back on reserve. Or, even better, it is our union caving to the company and screwing the pilots again...and again...and again.
Operationally, PSA is a very dysfunctional place. Dispatchers don't take things such as weather and MELs into account when dispatching airplanes. Scheduling is inept at best. It takes 3 write-ups to get maintenance to actually fix anything (op's check good?). The safety department does not share important information that may be important until well after the fact and prefers to hide issues (just read about the single engine landing in ATL a month after it happened).
Or how about this new crap with LCA's being considered CQFO's and flying in the right seat to help the company? The LCAs are directly stealing money from the FO's, the days are not going critical, and the pilot group seems cool with it.
PSA is going to have some serious staffing issues pretty soon. There were less round one lines this month, and many captains who held round 1 lines are back on reserve. Most of these were street captains and came to PSA with 6-9 years of experience at other regionals. There are pilots with 10,000 hours of flight time and good records that will be on reserve as captains for at least another 2 years. Many are planning on jumping ship at the first chance. I saw dozens of PSA pilots at job fairs recently, and I wish them all luck.
If you think that we are having a very hard time hiring pilots now, imagine how bad it is going to be once the PSA MEC starts informational picketing at job fairs. Our new hires will drop from an average of 9 per class to 3 per class, and the relationship between our company and pilots is going to get even worse. And they despise us already. It will soon be even worse.
The growth has stopped at PSA. There may be another couple 900's coming in, but no one expects the 700's to ever come over and the 200's will likely leave soon. That means that you had better be in the base and seat that you want to be in now, because upgrades are done. We don't have FO's to replace the FO's that we are losing, never mind the captains that are leaving, and we will just park airplanes every time we lose enough captains. New hires may never see a round 1 line, and the benefits of the SAP.
PSA had a great chance to succeed. It was poised to be a good place. The schedule flexibility is great, the contract really isn't that bad, the growth was amazing. Sure, we had a 12/4, but with the growth and flow, no one would ever hit those points. But, as tends to happen, American Airlines management completely screwed everything up. Dion and his crew came in and treat the pilots like crap every chance that they get. It is now a terrible place to be. It probably isn't quite as bad as Envoy, I will admit, but we will be soon.
What the management does not realize is that every time they treat the pilots like crap, they make more trouble for themselves. I know guys that had purposefully waited until the outstation to call in sick just to screw the company. Or write up the airplane and cancelling a flight. Or sit back and laugh when scheduling is calling for a junior man assignment. Or save their sick time for days that have the fewest number of reserves on the reserve grid.
I am waiting for the critical pay arbitration to come back in a few weeks and see how much we are screwed over by that. And the new flow negotiations in June. I will bet that neither of these things go the pilots way.
Well, here I sit, in one of the worst hotels in our system. It is going to start raining soon. The inbound flight is delayed. My FO went to riddle. My FA's were working at fast food restaurants just a few weeks ago. Today is NOT going to be a good day. Today is going to be what I call a "PSA DAY".
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05-14-2016 | 04:34 AM
#2852
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Welcome to the forum Devil Dog. I thought you took another job with an ACMI? If so, good luck. I hope you enjoy it there.
Anyway, I occasionally like PSA. Usually it is just after a good overnight, with a good crew, on a nice sunny morning. Then, something "PSA" happens and it ruins everything. Sometimes it is payroll screwing up my paycheck and short paying me AGAIN. Other times, it is our D.O. calling and threatening pilots into working when they are not legal to do so. Another time it is seeing an FO get displaced off of a line that they hold and put back on reserve. Or, even better, it is our union caving to the company and screwing the pilots again...and again...and again.
Operationally, PSA is a very dysfunctional place. Dispatchers don't take things such as weather and MELs into account when dispatching airplanes. Scheduling is inept at best. It takes 3 write-ups to get maintenance to actually fix anything (op's check good?). The safety department does not share important information that may be important until well after the fact and prefers to hide issues (just read about the single engine landing in ATL a month after it happened).
Or how about this new crap with LCA's being considered CQFO's and flying in the right seat to help the company? The LCAs are directly stealing money from the FO's, the days are not going critical, and the pilot group seems cool with it.
PSA is going to have some serious staffing issues pretty soon. There were less round one lines this month, and many captains who held round 1 lines are back on reserve. Most of these were street captains and came to PSA with 6-9 years of experience at other regionals. There are pilots with 10,000 hours of flight time and good records that will be on reserve as captains for at least another 2 years. Many are planning on jumping ship at the first chance. I saw dozens of PSA pilots at job fairs recently, and I wish them all luck.
If you think that we are having a very hard time hiring pilots now, imagine how bad it is going to be once the PSA MEC starts informational picketing at job fairs. Our new hires will drop from an average of 9 per class to 3 per class, and the relationship between our company and pilots is going to get even worse. And they despise us already. It will soon be even worse.
The growth has stopped at PSA. There may be another couple 900's coming in, but no one expects the 700's to ever come over and the 200's will likely leave soon. That means that you had better be in the base and seat that you want to be in now, because upgrades are done. We don't have FO's to replace the FO's that we are losing, never mind the captains that are leaving, and we will just park airplanes every time we lose enough captains. New hires may never see a round 1 line, and the benefits of the SAP.
PSA had a great chance to succeed. It was poised to be a good place. The schedule flexibility is great, the contract really isn't that bad, the growth was amazing. Sure, we had a 12/4, but with the growth and flow, no one would ever hit those points. But, as tends to happen, American Airlines management completely screwed everything up. Dion and his crew came in and treat the pilots like crap every chance that they get. It is now a terrible place to be. It probably isn't quite as bad as Envoy, I will admit, but we will be soon.
What the management does not realize is that every time they treat the pilots like crap, they make more trouble for themselves. I know guys that had purposefully waited until the outstation to call in sick just to screw the company. Or write up the airplane and cancelling a flight. Or sit back and laugh when scheduling is calling for a junior man assignment. Or save their sick time for days that have the fewest number of reserves on the reserve grid.
I am waiting for the critical pay arbitration to come back in a few weeks and see how much we are screwed over by that. And the new flow negotiations in June. I will bet that neither of these things go the pilots way.
Well, here I sit, in one of the worst hotels in our system. It is going to start raining soon. The inbound flight is delayed. My FO went to riddle. My FA's were working at fast food restaurants just a few weeks ago. Today is NOT going to be a good day. Today is going to be what I call a "PSA DAY".
Anyway, I occasionally like PSA. Usually it is just after a good overnight, with a good crew, on a nice sunny morning. Then, something "PSA" happens and it ruins everything. Sometimes it is payroll screwing up my paycheck and short paying me AGAIN. Other times, it is our D.O. calling and threatening pilots into working when they are not legal to do so. Another time it is seeing an FO get displaced off of a line that they hold and put back on reserve. Or, even better, it is our union caving to the company and screwing the pilots again...and again...and again.
Operationally, PSA is a very dysfunctional place. Dispatchers don't take things such as weather and MELs into account when dispatching airplanes. Scheduling is inept at best. It takes 3 write-ups to get maintenance to actually fix anything (op's check good?). The safety department does not share important information that may be important until well after the fact and prefers to hide issues (just read about the single engine landing in ATL a month after it happened).
Or how about this new crap with LCA's being considered CQFO's and flying in the right seat to help the company? The LCAs are directly stealing money from the FO's, the days are not going critical, and the pilot group seems cool with it.
PSA is going to have some serious staffing issues pretty soon. There were less round one lines this month, and many captains who held round 1 lines are back on reserve. Most of these were street captains and came to PSA with 6-9 years of experience at other regionals. There are pilots with 10,000 hours of flight time and good records that will be on reserve as captains for at least another 2 years. Many are planning on jumping ship at the first chance. I saw dozens of PSA pilots at job fairs recently, and I wish them all luck.
If you think that we are having a very hard time hiring pilots now, imagine how bad it is going to be once the PSA MEC starts informational picketing at job fairs. Our new hires will drop from an average of 9 per class to 3 per class, and the relationship between our company and pilots is going to get even worse. And they despise us already. It will soon be even worse.
The growth has stopped at PSA. There may be another couple 900's coming in, but no one expects the 700's to ever come over and the 200's will likely leave soon. That means that you had better be in the base and seat that you want to be in now, because upgrades are done. We don't have FO's to replace the FO's that we are losing, never mind the captains that are leaving, and we will just park airplanes every time we lose enough captains. New hires may never see a round 1 line, and the benefits of the SAP.
PSA had a great chance to succeed. It was poised to be a good place. The schedule flexibility is great, the contract really isn't that bad, the growth was amazing. Sure, we had a 12/4, but with the growth and flow, no one would ever hit those points. But, as tends to happen, American Airlines management completely screwed everything up. Dion and his crew came in and treat the pilots like crap every chance that they get. It is now a terrible place to be. It probably isn't quite as bad as Envoy, I will admit, but we will be soon.
What the management does not realize is that every time they treat the pilots like crap, they make more trouble for themselves. I know guys that had purposefully waited until the outstation to call in sick just to screw the company. Or write up the airplane and cancelling a flight. Or sit back and laugh when scheduling is calling for a junior man assignment. Or save their sick time for days that have the fewest number of reserves on the reserve grid.
I am waiting for the critical pay arbitration to come back in a few weeks and see how much we are screwed over by that. And the new flow negotiations in June. I will bet that neither of these things go the pilots way.
Well, here I sit, in one of the worst hotels in our system. It is going to start raining soon. The inbound flight is delayed. My FO went to riddle. My FA's were working at fast food restaurants just a few weeks ago. Today is NOT going to be a good day. Today is going to be what I call a "PSA DAY".
05-14-2016 | 04:37 AM
#2853
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Is there an honest recruiter I can talk to? Or maybe I can ask pilots here....I'm starting to think the immediate upgrades I'm told of at PSA is not capable? I'm also hearing Charlotte line holder out of training is false and not true. Also the more I research the more I find I won't flow as a new hire in three years. Is PSA a place to consider or is endeavour/Skywest/compass the new golden egg? Don't respond if you are a recruiter please.
As far as golden eggs are concerned, you are not going to find many of those no matter where you go, just be realistic.
05-14-2016 | 04:37 AM
#2854
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Welcome to the forum Devil Dog. I thought you took another job with an ACMI? If so, good luck. I hope you enjoy it there.
Anyway, I occasionally like PSA. Usually it is just after a good overnight, with a good crew, on a nice sunny morning. Then, something "PSA" happens and it ruins everything. Sometimes it is payroll screwing up my paycheck and short paying me AGAIN. Other times, it is our D.O. calling and threatening pilots into working when they are not legal to do so. Another time it is seeing an FO get displaced off of a line that they hold and put back on reserve. Or, even better, it is our union caving to the company and screwing the pilots again...and again...and again.
Operationally, PSA is a very dysfunctional place. Dispatchers don't take things such as weather and MELs into account when dispatching airplanes. Scheduling is inept at best. It takes 3 write-ups to get maintenance to actually fix anything (op's check good?). The safety department does not share important information that may be important until well after the fact and prefers to hide issues (just read about the single engine landing in ATL a month after it happened).
Or how about this new crap with LCA's being considered CQFO's and flying in the right seat to help the company? The LCAs are directly stealing money from the FO's, the days are not going critical, and the pilot group seems cool with it.
PSA is going to have some serious staffing issues pretty soon. There were less round one lines this month, and many captains who held round 1 lines are back on reserve. Most of these were street captains and came to PSA with 6-9 years of experience at other regionals. There are pilots with 10,000 hours of flight time and good records that will be on reserve as captains for at least another 2 years. Many are planning on jumping ship at the first chance. I saw dozens of PSA pilots at job fairs recently, and I wish them all luck.
If you think that we are having a very hard time hiring pilots now, imagine how bad it is going to be once the PSA MEC starts informational picketing at job fairs. Our new hires will drop from an average of 9 per class to 3 per class, and the relationship between our company and pilots is going to get even worse. And they despise us already. It will soon be even worse.
The growth has stopped at PSA. There may be another couple 900's coming in, but no one expects the 700's to ever come over and the 200's will likely leave soon. That means that you had better be in the base and seat that you want to be in now, because upgrades are done. We don't have FO's to replace the FO's that we are losing, never mind the captains that are leaving, and we will just park airplanes every time we lose enough captains. New hires may never see a round 1 line, and the benefits of the SAP.
PSA had a great chance to succeed. It was poised to be a good place. The schedule flexibility is great, the contract really isn't that bad, the growth was amazing. Sure, we had a 12/4, but with the growth and flow, no one would ever hit those points. But, as tends to happen, American Airlines management completely screwed everything up. Dion and his crew came in and treat the pilots like crap every chance that they get. It is now a terrible place to be. It probably isn't quite as bad as Envoy, I will admit, but we will be soon.
What the management does not realize is that every time they treat the pilots like crap, they make more trouble for themselves. I know guys that had purposefully waited until the outstation to call in sick just to screw the company. Or write up the airplane and cancelling a flight. Or sit back and laugh when scheduling is calling for a junior man assignment. Or save their sick time for days that have the fewest number of reserves on the reserve grid.
I am waiting for the critical pay arbitration to come back in a few weeks and see how much we are screwed over by that. And the new flow negotiations in June. I will bet that neither of these things go the pilots way.
Well, here I sit, in one of the worst hotels in our system. It is going to start raining soon. The inbound flight is delayed. My FO went to riddle. My FA's were working at fast food restaurants just a few weeks ago. Today is NOT going to be a good day. Today is going to be what I call a "PSA DAY".
Anyway, I occasionally like PSA. Usually it is just after a good overnight, with a good crew, on a nice sunny morning. Then, something "PSA" happens and it ruins everything. Sometimes it is payroll screwing up my paycheck and short paying me AGAIN. Other times, it is our D.O. calling and threatening pilots into working when they are not legal to do so. Another time it is seeing an FO get displaced off of a line that they hold and put back on reserve. Or, even better, it is our union caving to the company and screwing the pilots again...and again...and again.
Operationally, PSA is a very dysfunctional place. Dispatchers don't take things such as weather and MELs into account when dispatching airplanes. Scheduling is inept at best. It takes 3 write-ups to get maintenance to actually fix anything (op's check good?). The safety department does not share important information that may be important until well after the fact and prefers to hide issues (just read about the single engine landing in ATL a month after it happened).
Or how about this new crap with LCA's being considered CQFO's and flying in the right seat to help the company? The LCAs are directly stealing money from the FO's, the days are not going critical, and the pilot group seems cool with it.
PSA is going to have some serious staffing issues pretty soon. There were less round one lines this month, and many captains who held round 1 lines are back on reserve. Most of these were street captains and came to PSA with 6-9 years of experience at other regionals. There are pilots with 10,000 hours of flight time and good records that will be on reserve as captains for at least another 2 years. Many are planning on jumping ship at the first chance. I saw dozens of PSA pilots at job fairs recently, and I wish them all luck.
If you think that we are having a very hard time hiring pilots now, imagine how bad it is going to be once the PSA MEC starts informational picketing at job fairs. Our new hires will drop from an average of 9 per class to 3 per class, and the relationship between our company and pilots is going to get even worse. And they despise us already. It will soon be even worse.
The growth has stopped at PSA. There may be another couple 900's coming in, but no one expects the 700's to ever come over and the 200's will likely leave soon. That means that you had better be in the base and seat that you want to be in now, because upgrades are done. We don't have FO's to replace the FO's that we are losing, never mind the captains that are leaving, and we will just park airplanes every time we lose enough captains. New hires may never see a round 1 line, and the benefits of the SAP.
PSA had a great chance to succeed. It was poised to be a good place. The schedule flexibility is great, the contract really isn't that bad, the growth was amazing. Sure, we had a 12/4, but with the growth and flow, no one would ever hit those points. But, as tends to happen, American Airlines management completely screwed everything up. Dion and his crew came in and treat the pilots like crap every chance that they get. It is now a terrible place to be. It probably isn't quite as bad as Envoy, I will admit, but we will be soon.
What the management does not realize is that every time they treat the pilots like crap, they make more trouble for themselves. I know guys that had purposefully waited until the outstation to call in sick just to screw the company. Or write up the airplane and cancelling a flight. Or sit back and laugh when scheduling is calling for a junior man assignment. Or save their sick time for days that have the fewest number of reserves on the reserve grid.
I am waiting for the critical pay arbitration to come back in a few weeks and see how much we are screwed over by that. And the new flow negotiations in June. I will bet that neither of these things go the pilots way.
Well, here I sit, in one of the worst hotels in our system. It is going to start raining soon. The inbound flight is delayed. My FO went to riddle. My FA's were working at fast food restaurants just a few weeks ago. Today is NOT going to be a good day. Today is going to be what I call a "PSA DAY".
Hahahahah excellent post!! You were never the one to be negative. This is all the truth and straight from the heart. Love it.
05-14-2016 | 04:51 AM
#2855
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Anyway, I occasionally like PSA. Usually it is just after a good overnight, with a good crew, on a nice sunny morning. Then, something "PSA" happens and it ruins everything. Sometimes it is payroll screwing up my paycheck and short paying me AGAIN. Other times, it is our D.O. calling and threatening pilots into working when they are not legal to do so. Another time it is seeing an FO get displaced off of a line that they hold and put back on reserve. Or, even better, it is our union caving to the company and screwing the pilots again...and again...and again.
Anyway, I occasionally like PSA. Usually it is just after a good overnight, with a good crew, on a nice sunny morning. Then, something "PSA" happens and it ruins everything. Sometimes it is payroll screwing up my paycheck and short paying me AGAIN. Other times, it is our D.O. calling and threatening pilots into working when they are not legal to do so. Another time it is seeing an FO get displaced off of a line that they hold and put back on reserve. Or, even better, it is our union caving to the company and screwing the pilots again...and again...and again.
05-14-2016 | 05:02 AM
#2856
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From: CL65
I do feel bad about people that are being lied to by our recruiters and are coming to PSA now. The people that made the videos should be completely ashamed of themselves. If you come to PSA now, you are going to get screwed.
I have friends at most all of the regionals, and I would not recommend any in particular. They all have major problems and it is anyones guess when the next one will close. My guess is that AWAC will close first, and then something dramatic will have to happen with PDT. Delta will be reducing their regional flying so much that I would not recommend Endeavor right now. Mesa is terrible and will likely not get better. The whole SkyWest thing always confuses me, but they may be the most stable of the non-owned airlines, but that may be their downfall. If Delta and United take flying back to main line, SkyWest has to be more expensive than the others and will likely lose flying first. Again, all of these assumptions are with what we know today. Tomorrow it will all be different. Caveat Emptor.
05-14-2016 | 06:08 AM
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I made the right choice in coming to PSA. I have been here a little over 2 years ago and have had it pretty good. Almost no time spent on reserve, and now I am able to get 15 days a month off or more. I have never worked a holiday that I wanted to be off for. When I hear about people that have been on reserve as FOs for years at places like Envoy, I can't understand why they didn't come to PSA 3 years ago. They would be line holding captains with the SAP, getting off any time that they want, and even closer to the flow than they are at Envoy.
I do feel bad about people that are being lied to by our recruiters and are coming to PSA now. The people that made the videos should be completely ashamed of themselves. If you come to PSA now, you are going to get screwed.
I have friends at most all of the regionals, and I would not recommend any in particular. They all have major problems and it is anyones guess when the next one will close. My guess is that AWAC will close first, and then something dramatic will have to happen with PDT. Delta will be reducing their regional flying so much that I would not recommend Endeavor right now. Mesa is terrible and will likely not get better. The whole SkyWest thing always confuses me, but they may be the most stable of the non-owned airlines, but that may be their downfall. If Delta and United take flying back to main line, SkyWest has to be more expensive than the others and will likely lose flying first. Again, all of these assumptions are with what we know today. Tomorrow it will all be different. Caveat Emptor.
I do feel bad about people that are being lied to by our recruiters and are coming to PSA now. The people that made the videos should be completely ashamed of themselves. If you come to PSA now, you are going to get screwed.
I have friends at most all of the regionals, and I would not recommend any in particular. They all have major problems and it is anyones guess when the next one will close. My guess is that AWAC will close first, and then something dramatic will have to happen with PDT. Delta will be reducing their regional flying so much that I would not recommend Endeavor right now. Mesa is terrible and will likely not get better. The whole SkyWest thing always confuses me, but they may be the most stable of the non-owned airlines, but that may be their downfall. If Delta and United take flying back to main line, SkyWest has to be more expensive than the others and will likely lose flying first. Again, all of these assumptions are with what we know today. Tomorrow it will all be different. Caveat Emptor.
Would they had been better $ short term, yes. Long term, not a chance. Also a 2011 hire when gets to be CA, probably next year will be in 6yr pay vs 3-4 yr CA pay at PSA.
Also, look at your airline state, envoy being bigger is better positionate to succeed vs PSA. PSA can't keep up with the growth and is the youngest AAG WO pilot group. They will try to keep you guys locked as much as they can, just because of the $$$$ savings.
What saves more money to AAG a 8-10yr ENY CA or a 3-5 yr PSA CA?
05-14-2016 | 06:11 AM
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Envoy 2011-2012 hire is about 3 years from flowing. Said person would be 600-800 seniority on PSA = 13yrs to flow. Even if is on the 400s = 6.6 yr to flow. Take 2 years out of each = 4.6 to 11 yrs to flow right now at PSA.
Would they had been better $ short term, yes. Long term, not a chance. Also a 2011 hire when gets to be CA, probably next year will be in 6yr pay vs 3-4 yr CA pay at PSA.
Also, look at your airline state, envoy being bigger is better positionate to succeed vs PSA. PSA can't keep up with the growth and is the youngest AAG WO pilot group. They will try to keep you guys locked as much as they can, just because of the $$$$ savings.
What saves more money to AAG a 8-10yr ENY CA or a 3-5 yr PSA CA?
Would they had been better $ short term, yes. Long term, not a chance. Also a 2011 hire when gets to be CA, probably next year will be in 6yr pay vs 3-4 yr CA pay at PSA.
Also, look at your airline state, envoy being bigger is better positionate to succeed vs PSA. PSA can't keep up with the growth and is the youngest AAG WO pilot group. They will try to keep you guys locked as much as they can, just because of the $$$$ savings.
What saves more money to AAG a 8-10yr ENY CA or a 3-5 yr PSA CA?
05-14-2016 | 06:23 AM
#2859
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Envoy 2011-2012 hire is about 3 years from flowing. Said person would be 600-800 seniority on PSA = 13yrs to flow. Even if is on the 400s = 6.6 yr to flow. Take 2 years out of each = 4.6 to 11 yrs to flow right now at PSA.
Would they had been better $ short term, yes. Long term, not a chance. Also a 2011 hire when gets to be CA, probably next year will be in 6yr pay vs 3-4 yr CA pay at PSA.
Also, look at your airline state, envoy being bigger is better positionate to succeed vs PSA. PSA can't keep up with the growth and is the youngest AAG WO pilot group. They will try to keep you guys locked as much as they can, just because of the $$$$ savings.
What saves more money to AAG a 8-10yr ENY CA or a 3-5 yr PSA CA?
Would they had been better $ short term, yes. Long term, not a chance. Also a 2011 hire when gets to be CA, probably next year will be in 6yr pay vs 3-4 yr CA pay at PSA.
Also, look at your airline state, envoy being bigger is better positionate to succeed vs PSA. PSA can't keep up with the growth and is the youngest AAG WO pilot group. They will try to keep you guys locked as much as they can, just because of the $$$$ savings.
What saves more money to AAG a 8-10yr ENY CA or a 3-5 yr PSA CA?
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