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06-11-2016 | 08:02 PM

#3241

IceManCRJ

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Originally Posted by Systemized

We are not losing a lot of people right now. Excluding people on the seniority list as AA PER, we lost 12 and added 15 last month for a net gain of 3. You can spin those numbers however you want but 12 is not a lot.

Well in the last year my number went up the list by about 230-250 people and the list has shrunk about 75 pilots.

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06-12-2016 | 06:52 AM

#3242

Slim11

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From: left seat CRJ (again!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceManCRJ

Well in the last year my number went up the list by about 230-250 people and the list has shrunk about 75 pilots.

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Aug 2014 hire...up 184 numbers in less than two years which puts me in the top half of the seniority list...upgraded to CA in less than one year.

FWIW...

06-12-2016 | 07:12 AM

#3243

JohnnyDingus

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Originally Posted by Slim11

Aug 2014 hire...up 184 numbers in less than two years which puts me in the top half of the seniority list...upgraded to CA in less than one year.

FWIW...

Likewise. In 2 years of being here I'll be up almost 240 numbers.

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06-12-2016 | 07:47 AM

#3244

Skyhawk92

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Originally Posted by Slim11

Aug 2014 hire...up 184 numbers in less than two years which puts me in the top half of the seniority list...upgraded to CA in less than one year.

FWIW...

Been here 16 months, no idea how many numbers I have moved up (don't have the motivation to look atm), no upgrade anywhere in sight, probably years away at this pace.

FWIW

06-12-2016 | 07:54 AM

#3245

FlexNinja

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From: Airbus FO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyhawk92

Been here 16 months, no idea how many numbers I have moved up (don't have the motivation to look atm), no upgrade anywhere in sight, probably years away at this pace.

FWIW

Out of curiosity, do you have your 1000SIC?

06-12-2016 | 08:06 AM

#3246

chrisreedrules

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From: CRJ FO

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Originally Posted by Skyhawk92

Been here 16 months, no idea how many numbers I have moved up (don't have the motivation to look atm), no upgrade anywhere in sight, probably years away at this pace.

FWIW

You're probably about 2.5 years from upgrade unless we see a mass exodus of CAs and senior FOs next year. Which very well could happen.

06-12-2016 | 09:12 AM

#3247

buddies8

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And no new hires would mean reduction at best if not displacements. This would happen first so 2.5 upgrade is a dream right now.

06-12-2016 | 09:27 AM

#3248

Slick111

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Slim11

Aug 2014 hire...up 184 numbers in less than two years which puts me in the top half of the seniority list...upgraded to CA in less than one year.

FWIW...

Once again, quick upgrades are a thing of the PAST.

Things were a lot different when you hired in, 2 years ago.

06-12-2016 | 09:44 AM

#3249

chrisreedrules

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From: CRJ FO

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Originally Posted by buddies8

And no new hires would mean reduction at best if not displacements. This would happen first so 2.5 upgrade is a dream right now.

Maybe... Right now we are basically able to hire for attrition and things will improve in terms of pay and contract if AAG doesn't want a staffing crisis in its hands. Upgrades will continue, and so will attrition. I've been talking with quite a few captains that have interviews with legacies coming up. And the major retirement wave hasn't even really started yet. Movement will come no matter what.

06-12-2016 | 11:08 AM

#3250

desertdog71

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From: Gucci Jet Left

I moved 174 numbers in 3 years, so the movement is slower near the top of the list. That was the point I was making earlier. 70-80 lifers and a limited number of CA slots is going to leave a lot of senior FO's. Stagnation is setting in, unless a mass exodus happens, which it may. Hard to say for sure.

Best case if you're considering it, plan on being a FO for a while and reserve for a while. If that works for you, then come on. If not, there might be other better places to consider.