I have been here one year and still can't hold a line in CLT. I have been 30 away for about 4 months. I don't expect to hold a line for at least another 6 months. My guess would be two years for new hire

 

Yep.That's why my friends bailed.Heck go jet even has a better contract now.The brilliant management at Psa though the 60-80 per month new hires from 2013-2014 would continue. Boy were they wrong.Besides, I heard that management and the cp''s over there have screwed over so many people when it wasn't necessary, now they are getting a little of what they dished out I guess.
And the way things are going now 5or 6 years from now you will be able to go to the major or llc of your choice. You won't need a friggin' flow.

 

I honestly would not expect pay to increase by much when other regionals with much better pay are only having 2 people show up to class. True story. Management knows increasing pay was a fix that needed to be made 6 months ago. It's too late for that to work on a scale they need it to. So now what? They sit on their hands and wait to see which non-wholly owneds fail. We aren't likely to grow by much more than we have when the last of the 900s get delivered and we will stagnate a bit for a while. If that happens I would expect flow to increase and retention bonuses to be dangled in front of FOs again. There will still be movement going forward as pilots leave for legacies and LCCs over the next couple years and as we flow pilots to mainline. This place will still offer more movement than many. I would personally not go to RAH. Too risky. I would consider PSA for a specific set of circumstances. If you fall within those circumstances, it isn't a bad place to be. If however you find yourself commuting from far away because some recruiter promised you CLT and a quick upgrade, you failed to do your homework.

 

Really good insight, thanks for all the input. Much appreciated.

 

I have nothing to add. I just think ^^^this^^^ needed to be highlighted,..... again.

 

Your point about increasing pay not working is an interesting one and I hadn't considered that myself. There's a lot of truth in your entire post.

 

Unfortunately, pilots at RAH will have to leave RAH and go to an American wholly owned regional if they want to work at American. Those pilots who left PSA may find themselves right back here.

Now if those RAH pilots move on to Delta or United, that I can't speak to.

There will be no other way to get to American Airlines unless you go through one of their 3 wholly owned regionals.

 

Based on current numbers, it looks like about probably 6 months to hold CLT.

The good news is, anything you may have read about a training backlog is over. That pipeline is quick now. Only a few days between events, Ground, Oral, Sim, IOE. Its all happening fast. PSA spun up a ton of instructors in preparation for heavy duty hiring.

 

And apparently most of 'em are back flying the line, (and taking round one lines away from those of us who are below them in seniority), because there aren't a whole lot of pilots coming through the PSA training pipeline these days,...... f/o's OR Captains.

Trivia question: How many pilots are in the April upgrade class?
Answer: It's a trick question. There IS NO April upgrade class. And so far, no upgrade class for May,.... or June,.... or....

 

They aren't taking anything from you anymore than you would be taking build up lines or LCR from someone junior to you.