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#2161
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Flow going from 5 to 2 /month for "at least" June and July for "staffing and operational needs of the summer". Looks like I called that one wrong...
I don't know if this means that the 3 /month we're not flowing over the summer are going to be deferred until the end of the year or what. Also, the rumor was they were not going to be taking any over the summer to begin with so maybe looking at it as 2 is better than none is a good thing? Until we have more clarification I don't know what the deal with this is.
I don't know if this means that the 3 /month we're not flowing over the summer are going to be deferred until the end of the year or what. Also, the rumor was they were not going to be taking any over the summer to begin with so maybe looking at it as 2 is better than none is a good thing? Until we have more clarification I don't know what the deal with this is.
#2163
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The email actually doesn't say anything that isn't detailed in the LOA. It's stated that due to operation necessity the company, can hold flows from going, but that they must be made up for by the end of the year. So now the big question is will they make sure those 6 that don't flow in those two months are made up for?
#2164
The email actually doesn't say anything that isn't detailed in the LOA. It's stated that due to operation necessity the company, can hold flows from going, but that they must be made up for by the end of the year. So now the big question is will they make sure those 6 that don't flow in those two months are made up for?
#2167
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Just make it known how awful the flow is and how the company doesn't follow a single section of the contract. The more the truth is out about this place, the better we are. Right now o do not want to see any fellow aviator come here and suffer on reserve under this poor management. Until they can have some trust (HA) from the pilots and follow through on anything, I recommend everyone stay away. Amazing how management can take a place with so much potential and in 2 years cause so many issues. Issues that the pilot group warned them of....
#2168
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Just make it known how awful the flow is and how the company doesn't follow a single section of the contract. The more the truth is out about this place, the better we are. Right now o do not want to see any fellow aviator come here and suffer on reserve under this poor management. Until they can have some trust (HA) from the pilots and follow through on anything, I recommend everyone stay away. Amazing how management can take a place with so much potential and in 2 years cause so many issues. Issues that the pilot group warned them of....
This is a good place to work and I for one am proud of how far we have come.
The flow works just fine. By the end of the year everyone who should have gone will be at AA.
#2170
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
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You do realize there is no requirement to flow pilots monthly or during the furlough classes right now. There is only a requirement to send the lesser of 25% or 5 (not to exceed 8) for every month (not class) that AA runs a "New Pilot Position" class, to be accomplished by the end of the year. I'm amazed at how many people who voted on this flow have no clue what they voted on. The 2 a month are a bonus and actually give PSA and AA the ability to stop flows as long as [5 pilots (not to exceed 8) X the MONTHS (not held classes) a new hire class occurs] flow by 31 Dec. At the most, 60 pilots a year must flow until we gain CA. If AA holds furlough classes for 2 months and they don't hold new hire classes in Dec., we only have to flow 45 (5 X 9 months of new hire classes). The language is very specific in the companies favor. But hey we a flow. Amazing short sightedness and voting uninformed because June is going to fix everything.
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