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Old 11-11-2016 | 06:05 PM
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I agree that jumping ship from regional to regional just for a signing bonus is unethical and will require explaining during an interview in the future. And for the record, I am not advocating anyone should do that at all.

However, someone who signs a training contract is also free to leave when they wish to do so. They just have to pay back the "calculated" cost of training.

So I suppose the wholly owned give people the option to either take the signing bonus or decline? The only problem with that is that it becomes immediately clear that the applicant has reservations of being on the property beyond the two-year mark if they don't accept the bonus.
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Old 11-11-2016 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptYoda
I agree that jumping ship from regional to regional just for a signing bonus is unethical and will require explaining during an interview in the future. And for the record, I am not advocating anyone should do that at all.

However, someone who signs a training contract is also free to leave when they wish to do so. They just have to pay back the "calculated" cost of training.

So I suppose the wholly owned give people the option to either take the signing bonus or decline? The only problem with that is that it becomes immediately clear that the applicant has reservations of being on the property beyond the two-year mark if they don't accept the bonus.
You are free to not take the bonus. You will still get paid more than at some other regionals.

If it were me, I would put that bonus money in a savings account. Leave it there for a little while until you think you will stay at PSA for the full time. Or, if you leave, so somewhere that has a similar bonus and use the new bonus to pay off the old one.

Just because they give you the money doesn't mean that you need to spend it right away.

Or, if you have high interest loans (credit card/student loans), then pay that off and start a savings account with what you would have been paying for the loans. That way, you are saving a great deal of money on interest and paying it to yourself.

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Old 11-11-2016 | 06:21 PM
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It's true that you don't have to accept the bonus. You still get your regular pay, etc. Then after 1 year, it is prorated. So if you stay a year and a half, you would have to pay back 1/4 of it. (it's prorated by the month)
If someone isn't sure they're going to stay the two years, the prudent thing to do would be to park it in the bank until you've qualified for it. Since I need to get the 1000 hrs sic time, I'm not going anywhere early so it was a non issue for me to sign it.
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Old 11-11-2016 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptYoda
I agree that jumping ship from regional to regional just for a signing bonus is unethical and will require explaining during an interview in the future. And for the record, I am not advocating anyone should do that at all.

However, someone who signs a training contract is also free to leave when they wish to do so. They just have to pay back the "calculated" cost of training.

So I suppose the wholly owned give people the option to either take the signing bonus or decline? The only problem with that is that it becomes immediately clear that the applicant has reservations of being on the property beyond the two-year mark if they don't accept the bonus.
The difference between what PSA offers and say, what Mesa offers is that at PSA, you can turn down the bonus and then you are free to leave any time you want. At an airline like Mesa, where they have an actual training bond, you can't accept the job without also accepting the training bond. But all of this is besides the point that anyone coming to a WO is either new to the industry in which case there isn't much of a reason to leaving before your 2 years or until you have 1,000 SIC, or this isn't their first airline and they've done their research. Either scenario makes whatever point you're trying to prove a moot one.
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Old 11-11-2016 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PSA help
You are free to not take the bonus. You will still get paid more than at other regionals.

If it were me, I would put that bonus money in a savings account. Leave it there for a little while until you think you will stay at PSA for the full time. Or, if you leave, so somewhere that has a similar bonus and use the new bonus to pay off the old one.

Just because they give you the money doesn't mean that you need to spend it right away.

Or, if you have high interest loans (credit card/student loans), then pay that off and start a savings account with what you would have been paying for the loans. That way, you are saving a great deal of money on interest and paying it to yourself.
That seems to be a prudent option as suggested.
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Old 11-11-2016 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
Actually 2nd year and beyond is currently $39.89, which will change when deliveries start happening again, and also on April 1 when the usual annual raise goes into effect.
Thanks for the correction on that pay scale. Why will deliveries affect the pay? Not sure I understand that. Does it have to do with the "blended" rate? I've been told they'll also bring some of the parked 200's back on line when they get enough crew, so not sure the ratio will change.
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Old 11-11-2016 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fearofpavement
Thanks for the correction on that pay scale. Why will deliveries affect the pay? Not sure I understand that. Does it have to do with the "blended" rate? I've been told they'll also bring some of the parked 200's back on line when they get enough crew, so not sure the ratio will change.
The 200's are not officially parked. They are just in "maintenance". Some needed heavy checks, some needed engines, and all of the 200's are getting all new interiors. As we add staff, they will come out of "maintenance" and start flying the line again.

Our pay rate is a ratio of 200's/700's/900's. So, if we add higher paying airplanes (700's and 900's), then our blended pay rate goes up.
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Old 11-11-2016 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PSA help
The 200's are not officially parked. They are just in "maintenance". Some needed heavy checks, some needed engines, and all of the 200's are getting all new interiors. As we add staff, they will come out of "maintenance" and start flying the line again.

Our pay rate is a ratio of 200's/700's/900's. So, if we add higher paying airplanes (700's and 900's), then our blended pay rate goes up.


Yes, those engines will magically reappear onto the 200's once staffing improves.
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Old 11-11-2016 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by eperformfl
Thanks for the help. Any idea who the vendor is for PSA. Might help make my decision on to wait or just buy one now.
You are going to pay for it (and the rest of your uniforms) no matter how you make the purchase. The only advantage to buying stuff through the company vendor is the ability to make interest free payments over time. My advice would be to find the bag you want for the cheapest price and buy it... if you can afford the up front cost and don't need to spread it out.
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Old 11-12-2016 | 07:03 AM
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So if the company gives a new hire $15k to sign on, and they bail after a few months, do they pay back $15k or just the $10k or whatever was deposited into their account after taxes? Something to think about for those who are thinking about doing the sign on and bail thing......not a good idea either way.
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