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12-17-2016 | 08:03 PM
#5552
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The 700's were interrupted for the addition of more CRJ900's, but you already know that. Taking additional new airplanes is not a bad thing. The first quote was from an interview and press release this week:
PSA Airlines | PSA Airlines Announces New Crew Base at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport | December 12, 2016
The backlog does not really change time on reserve. The backlog was prior to, and proceeding most new hires. From the time that you started IOE, it was about 3 months. If the training backlog did not occur, it still would have been about 3 months.
And do you really think that any management work on Saturdays at 11pm?
PSA Airlines | PSA Airlines Announces New Crew Base at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport | December 12, 2016
The backlog does not really change time on reserve. The backlog was prior to, and proceeding most new hires. From the time that you started IOE, it was about 3 months. If the training backlog did not occur, it still would have been about 3 months.
And do you really think that any management work on Saturdays at 11pm?
That's your big press release that you want to go with?! Yikes. A bunch of vaguely worded statements and the boiler plate P.R. paragraph at the bottom.
12-17-2016 | 08:15 PM
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So then the real question is can we staff them? Hiring is up, and I have a good source that says they're ramping up for larger upgrade classes early next year.
And all any of us in the peanut gallery can do is wait.
12-17-2016 | 08:16 PM
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12-17-2016 | 08:43 PM
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Here's the bottom line: if we can staff them, the airplanes will come over. AAG is not going to maintain the infrastructure for a 35 aircraft fleet at another carrier when it already has 115 of the same type at another WO carrier.
So then the real question is can we staff them? Hiring is up, and I have a good source that says they're ramping up for larger upgrade classes early next year.
And all any of us in the peanut gallery can do is wait.
So then the real question is can we staff them? Hiring is up, and I have a good source that says they're ramping up for larger upgrade classes early next year.
And all any of us in the peanut gallery can do is wait.
The more I hear it, the more this pitch sounds the same as Piedmont's. Everyone is saying, "Trust US, the pilots are coming HERE." When in reality neither one has anything more than hopes and dreams that they will grow to the projected size.
For years regionals have said, "We're going to hire 600 this year!". And recently they have consistently been falling short. You say you're hiring tons, but now the cat is out of the bag with that new thread that was just started in the regional forum. All of the new hire numbers are now available to anyone who bothers to look at the graphs. The charade is up.
12-17-2016 | 09:30 PM
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You do realize that the mere existence of an upgrade bid is not proof that the staffing size is increasing.
The more I hear it, the more this pitch sounds the same as Piedmont's. Everyone is saying, "Trust US, the pilots are coming HERE." When in reality neither one has anything more than hopes and dreams that they will grow to the projected size.
For years regionals have said, "We're going to hire 600 this year!". And recently they have consistently been falling short. You say you're hiring tons, but now the cat is out of the bag with that new thread that was just started in the regional forum. All of the new hire numbers are now available to anyone who bothers to look at the graphs. The charade is up.
The more I hear it, the more this pitch sounds the same as Piedmont's. Everyone is saying, "Trust US, the pilots are coming HERE." When in reality neither one has anything more than hopes and dreams that they will grow to the projected size.
For years regionals have said, "We're going to hire 600 this year!". And recently they have consistently been falling short. You say you're hiring tons, but now the cat is out of the bag with that new thread that was just started in the regional forum. All of the new hire numbers are now available to anyone who bothers to look at the graphs. The charade is up.
At the same time, realize that my earlier post is full of conditional statements. IF we can staff, THEN the airplanes will come. I'm not hear to make promises and prognostications. I'm just pointing out that AAG has all of a sudden found it very important to have very good new hire FO compensation at its WO carriers, within a couple bucks of the best of the industry, if not the best, and I've got all the information I need about hiring.
12-17-2016 | 10:05 PM
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You do realize that I'm the data guy at PSA, right? I see all the bids, all the seniority lists, all the attrition, all sliced and diced in myriad ways. In short, I have way more factual information about PSA than you than you.
At the same time, realize that my earlier post is full of conditional statements. IF we can staff, THEN the airplanes will come. I'm not hear to make promises and prognostications. I'm just pointing out that AAG has all of a sudden found it very important to have very good new hire FO compensation at its WO carriers, within a couple bucks of the best of the industry, if not the best, and I've got all the information I need about hiring.
At the same time, realize that my earlier post is full of conditional statements. IF we can staff, THEN the airplanes will come. I'm not hear to make promises and prognostications. I'm just pointing out that AAG has all of a sudden found it very important to have very good new hire FO compensation at its WO carriers, within a couple bucks of the best of the industry, if not the best, and I've got all the information I need about hiring.
12-18-2016 | 03:36 AM
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Dude give it a rest. At the end of the day no one here has a crystal ball. If we can staff them and they come then they will and if we can't and they don't who cares. No one here is drooling over your ****ty 700's you can be certain of that. Go back to the envoy thread or just sit back relax and watch the show.
12-18-2016 | 06:10 AM
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From: CRJ FO
We have grown in 2016, and we've had a lot of attrition. Upgrade is going to stay around 2.5 years and new hires are going to experience rapid progression to be line holders quickly. We are going to grow even more in 2017. Classes are full with 50-60 /month and as long as we can staff (which AAG has made it clear it wants be able to staff ALL 3 of its WOs so it will pony up more if the need arrises) the remaining 700s will be transferred. And they have alluded to some growth beyond that if we can maintain hiring numbers as AAG chooses not to renew flying with some of the other regionals currently flying under the AE brand.
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