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Old 02-17-2017 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MichaelVne
Being a LCA and a mentor, let me give you a little advice. If you are just starting training here at PSA, your time will be better spent preparing for indoc, systems and IPT. When you start IOE, I will take an afternoon to spend time in FLICA and in the company website. Discussions about SAP and payroll processes are silly when you need to be concerning yourself with limitations and memory items. Placing the cart before the horse will only delay you getting to the point where you actually use FLICA. If you are on property and would like to discuss this issues, contact me directly through more appropriate measures.
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Having recently been through the pipeline I beg to differ, to a degree. Yes, your point is valid. You do not have to live a warrior monk life style to succeed here. If anything, based on my experience, the constant harping of limitations and memory items creates unnecessary stress. I saw a lot of my class mates struggling just because they are trying to memorize 4b verbatim after the instructors day in and day out beat the " you got to know know this" drum.

If you remember back to CFI you might remember the term chunking. So in that regards I agree with don't put the cart before the horse. Step 1, then step 2, etc, etc.

Simply taking a break from that and asking questions about your future did not equate to putting the cart before the horse.

I know you and every other instructor probably mean well. Dial it back a notch please.
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Old 02-17-2017 | 02:03 PM
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This place just got interesting... popcorn time!!!

As long as we are talking about immediate action items... what are the memory items after smoking a deer on the runway?
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Old 02-17-2017 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubz
This place just got interesting... popcorn time!!!

As long as we are talking about immediate action items... what are the memory items after smoking a deer on the runway?
Knowing the psa management, they will develop a memory item for wildlife strikes. I betcha it's coming.
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Old 02-17-2017 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
Knowing the psa management, they will develop a memory item for wildlife strikes. I betcha it's coming.
Just make sure you make a childish radio call on short final.

All kidding aside great job by those guys.
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Old 02-17-2017 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JayBee
Having recently been through the pipeline I beg to differ, to a degree. Yes, your point is valid. You do not have to live a warrior monk life style to succeed here. If anything, based on my experience, the constant harping of limitations and memory items creates unnecessary stress. I saw a lot of my class mates struggling just because they are trying to memorize 4b verbatim after the instructors day in and day out beat the " you got to know know this" drum.

If you remember back to CFI you might remember the term chunking. So in that regards I agree with don't put the cart before the horse. Step 1, then step 2, etc, etc.

Simply taking a break from that and asking questions about your future did not equate to putting the cart before the horse.

I know you and every other instructor probably mean well. Dial it back a notch please.
Dial it back? That is some funny stuff. I promise you after seeing so many people come through who do not know their flows or limitations, he has every right to say what he said. But as a new hire you probably know better than an LCA who has been here a while.
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Old 02-17-2017 | 03:31 PM
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That crew did a good job and handled it professionally. After reading about what happened and their reaction, I was even more proud to be a pilot at this company. Exactly what I would expect from almost any regional crew. If PDT, or Envoy, or AWAC, or SkyWest had a similar thing happen, I would expect them to handle it professionally as well, and I am sure that they would handle it the same way.
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Old 02-17-2017 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PSA help
That crew did a good job and handled it professionally. After reading about what happened and their reaction, I was even more proud to be a pilot at this company. Exactly what I would expect from almost any regional crew. If PDT, or Envoy, or AWAC, or SkyWest had a similar thing happen, I would expect them to handle it professionally as well, and I am sure that they would handle it the same way.
Proud to be at Psa? Pretty sh!tty Airlines? Geeeeezzzzzz.
Get a life lol
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Old 02-17-2017 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
Proud to be at Psa? Pretty sh!tty Airlines? Geeeeezzzzzz.
Get a life lol
We have a good group of pilots that do a good job. So, yes. Absolutely.

I would rather be at a legacy carrier, and will be there some day. But, if I had to choose a regional to be a stepping stone, I am glad that I picked PSA.

In reading your last 15 posts in various threads, you have trolled just about every other regional. This in the internet and you can do that. But, I think that the pilots at PSA have a stable, growing company with a bright future. We have a pretty good pilot group, good maintenance, a good route structure, and the best QOL that any regional can offer. So, if you ask me if I am proud to be at PSA, the answer is yes. Similarly, if you ask me if I will accept the first legacy offer that I get, the answer will also be yes.
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Old 02-17-2017 | 06:49 PM
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Don't feed the trolls!! LoL!
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Old 02-17-2017 | 07:26 PM
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Regarding the deer incident, it was after V1 I am assuming?

There was obviously damage to the wing as it was leaking fuel on the landing.


My question is this (and I currently fly a 172)....


Obviously after V1 if you abort you're going to end up in the dirt or the trees. However, if something damages your wing on the roll, would getting airborne also be hazardous due to the potential of catastrophic damage to the airframe from the strike?

In other words, is it better to knowingly put it into the dirt or trees instead of risk getting airborne and having no control?


In this situation they did the right thing because the damage was not catastrophic and they were able to make a go-around. But what if the wing had been damaged to the point of not being flyable?


I am curious and would like to learn more.
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