Comair updates?
01-13-2009, 04:23 AM
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I wish Comair would select their F/As this way... "Step on the scale!" 
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01-13-2009, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RJcursed4life
On the agenda for the special MEC meeting the other day was clearer rules for Union issued laptops to the volunteers; a clearer policy on buying the laptop when one chooses he/she no longer wants to be a volunteer or returning it to the union.....
....also discussed was the meeting between the union leadership and NG#4 and SB. Aparently NG#4 was pleased with what the union offered for furlough mitigation and was taking another look.
....NG#4 aparently also got 'permission' from Delta to offer buy outs to the pilots and flight attendants. It will be similar to the age 55 plan other employees have been offered. Approx. 400 pilots are eligible, but not nearly that many are expected to take it. Look for something to be posted about it on Monday. The window for this would be January 19th til I think Feb. 1.
....All this talk on EPIC mentioning 'slimming down' is aparently refering to the GO staff. We have the support structure for 1500-1600 pilots, but we all know we don't have that many on property anymore....it seemed like NG#4 understood that pilots already made their concessions in bankruptcy....
....NG#4 seemed to think that if another round of F-lows was needed, it wouldn't even be close to the numbers posted so far. This will hopefully be mitigated by any buyouts.
Hope this helps.
Best of luck to you out on the street.
....also discussed was the meeting between the union leadership and NG#4 and SB. Aparently NG#4 was pleased with what the union offered for furlough mitigation and was taking another look.
....NG#4 aparently also got 'permission' from Delta to offer buy outs to the pilots and flight attendants. It will be similar to the age 55 plan other employees have been offered. Approx. 400 pilots are eligible, but not nearly that many are expected to take it. Look for something to be posted about it on Monday. The window for this would be January 19th til I think Feb. 1.
....All this talk on EPIC mentioning 'slimming down' is aparently refering to the GO staff. We have the support structure for 1500-1600 pilots, but we all know we don't have that many on property anymore....it seemed like NG#4 understood that pilots already made their concessions in bankruptcy....
....NG#4 seemed to think that if another round of F-lows was needed, it wouldn't even be close to the numbers posted so far. This will hopefully be mitigated by any buyouts.
Hope this helps.
Best of luck to you out on the street.
01-13-2009, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
Well, Monday has come and gone. No surprise really. Any idea about extended LOAs, voluntary furloughs, or buyouts?
Buyout/early retirement information is posted. Not sure if I can say if it is "good" or not since I have nothing to reference it to, but at least its something.
01-13-2009, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cyrcadian
It just appeared on EPIC.
Buyout/early retirement information is posted. Not sure if I can say if it is "good" or not since I have nothing to reference it to, but at least its something.
Buyout/early retirement information is posted. Not sure if I can say if it is "good" or not since I have nothing to reference it to, but at least its something.
01-13-2009, 05:41 AM
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Here's the summary of what they offer pilots/FA's to leave early (5 years service required):
Two weeks of pay per year of service.
3 months of COBRA paid by Comair.
One year of "Yield-fare" pass travel for employee and pass riders per one year of service. No interline travel or no buddy passes.
Yeah, I can't even see 1 person taking this package.
Two weeks of pay per year of service.
3 months of COBRA paid by Comair.
One year of "Yield-fare" pass travel for employee and pass riders per one year of service. No interline travel or no buddy passes.
Yeah, I can't even see 1 person taking this package.
01-13-2009, 06:07 AM
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It looks like Comair/Delta knows that the very senior guys will never leave because they have nowhere else to go. The package offered mirrors what Delta is offering mainline employees. I think this package is designed for employees that have been with the company for 5 to 12 years. Any captain we have now has more than 8 years of service with the company. Any FO who upgrades to a captain will have at least 8 to 9 years of service. I think the goal is to reduce the FO average years of service to 3 to 4 years, and the Captain years of service to between 4 and 8 years. If you look at the big picture, it’s not just the very senior guys that are expensive, it’s the fact that we have 8 year FO’s and the most junior captain has been with the company for at least 8 years. I’m not a math wiz, but I think that is what they are looking for. Any of you math wiz guys can take the time to do the math will make it much clearer.
01-13-2009, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by urahosr
Hey Tristar, you're reading it wrong.
I did miss the 55 Point Program, which pays (excuse my math, I was never good at it) less? weeks per years of service than the Early out Program and you get retiree travel benefits? Seems to me its a raw deal either way.
01-13-2009, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TristarJS30
Taken right from the "Early Out Program" on Epic.
I did miss the 55 Point Program, which pays (excuse my math, I was never good at it) less? weeks per years of service than the Early out Program and you get retiree travel benefits? Seems to me its a raw deal either way.
I did miss the 55 Point Program, which pays (excuse my math, I was never good at it) less? weeks per years of service than the Early out Program and you get retiree travel benefits? Seems to me its a raw deal either way.
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