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01-13-2009, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cyrcadian
I don't understand your question.
To me it looks like the guys with 10-20 YOS make out the best. Unlimited pass benefits and almost 5 months pay. A quick glance at the seniority list shows that the 55 point program is available to the top 555 pilots and the early out is available to pilots 968 and higher.
To me it looks like the guys with 10-20 YOS make out the best. Unlimited pass benefits and almost 5 months pay. A quick glance at the seniority list shows that the 55 point program is available to the top 555 pilots and the early out is available to pilots 968 and higher.
If they are going to give a pilot flying benefits for 5 years, then why would that pilot need any yield fare tickets? Are yield fare tickets just like purchasing a buddy pass for yourself? Or are they saying that you would have flying bennies for 5 years on Comair and Delta and unlimited yield fare tickets on others in the Delta System for 5 years, or yield fare tickets for life?
01-13-2009, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
Sorry, let's see if this works.
If they are going to give a pilot flying benefits for 5 years, then why would that pilot need any yield fare tickets? Are yield fare tickets just like purchasing a buddy pass for yourself? Or are they saying that you would have flying bennies for 5 years on Comair and Delta and unlimited yield fare tickets on others in the Delta System for 5 years, or yield fare tickets for life?
If they are going to give a pilot flying benefits for 5 years, then why would that pilot need any yield fare tickets? Are yield fare tickets just like purchasing a buddy pass for yourself? Or are they saying that you would have flying bennies for 5 years on Comair and Delta and unlimited yield fare tickets on others in the Delta System for 5 years, or yield fare tickets for life?
The early out allows for employees with between 5-10 YOS to have unlimited yield fare. The length of time is based on YOS. Each year of service allows you a year of the restricted pass benefits. They are giving these guys benefits, but the yield fare restrictions apply.
The 55 point program allows for employees with greater than 10 YOS to have unlimited S3B pass privileges for life.
01-13-2009, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by cyrcadian
I think you may be mixing up the two programs.
The early out allows for employees with between 5-10 YOS to have unlimited yield fare. The length of time is based on YOS. Each year of service allows you a year of the restricted pass benefits. They are giving these guys benefits, but the yield fare restrictions apply.
The 55 point program allows for employees with greater than 10 YOS to have unlimited S3B pass privileges for life.
The early out allows for employees with between 5-10 YOS to have unlimited yield fare. The length of time is based on YOS. Each year of service allows you a year of the restricted pass benefits. They are giving these guys benefits, but the yield fare restrictions apply.
The 55 point program allows for employees with greater than 10 YOS to have unlimited S3B pass privileges for life.
01-13-2009, 09:05 AM
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Seems like too many of you are posting without really reading through what's offered.
Two very different programs here. All things considered, I think this is a very solid offer from a regional airline that doesn't have to do ANYTHING if they don't want to.
To a captain holding a crappy line that has a fairly lucrative side job and a wife with a stable job, this is most definitely something attractive. Different people are in different situations. A ton of us on here are FOs with 5 YOS or less, of course it doesn't make sense to us.
We'll just have to wait and see where it goes. Regardless guys, just remember, any little bit helps. As a very wise sensei of mine said "it loosens the belt".
Two very different programs here. All things considered, I think this is a very solid offer from a regional airline that doesn't have to do ANYTHING if they don't want to.
To a captain holding a crappy line that has a fairly lucrative side job and a wife with a stable job, this is most definitely something attractive. Different people are in different situations. A ton of us on here are FOs with 5 YOS or less, of course it doesn't make sense to us.
We'll just have to wait and see where it goes. Regardless guys, just remember, any little bit helps. As a very wise sensei of mine said "it loosens the belt".
01-13-2009, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
Yes. I am looking at someone who has 5 years of service as of Dec. 31, 2009. It looks to me that those employees would receive flying benefits for a year for each year of service that they have completed. So for a 5 year employee that would mean benefits for 5 years. Now that same program says that there is unlimited yield fare tickets for employee and passriders on Delta and Comair only. I am wondering if "Unlimited" means for life? I can't see why else you would use yield fare tickets during the 5 years of your benefits. Does that make better sense?
I don't think that is the intent of the bullet points. I could be clearer if they added the word "for" between the two lines.
01-13-2009, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by andy171773
Seems like too many of you are posting without really reading through what's offered.
Two very different programs here. All things considered, I think this is a very solid offer from a regional airline that doesn't have to do ANYTHING if they don't want to.
To a captain holding a crappy line that has a fairly lucrative side job and a wife with a stable job, this is most definitely something attractive. Different people are in different situations. A ton of us on here are FOs with 5 YOS or less, of course it doesn't make sense to us.
We'll just have to wait and see where it goes. Regardless guys, just remember, any little bit helps. As a very wise sensei of mine said "it loosens the belt".
Two very different programs here. All things considered, I think this is a very solid offer from a regional airline that doesn't have to do ANYTHING if they don't want to.
To a captain holding a crappy line that has a fairly lucrative side job and a wife with a stable job, this is most definitely something attractive. Different people are in different situations. A ton of us on here are FOs with 5 YOS or less, of course it doesn't make sense to us.
We'll just have to wait and see where it goes. Regardless guys, just remember, any little bit helps. As a very wise sensei of mine said "it loosens the belt".
01-13-2009, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lancermf
Maybe they are saying that we get unlimited yield fares for the number of years of service. Was that already said? Is this thing on?
01-13-2009, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
I thought about that, but looking back at the memo, the bullet point with the regular privileges has a time frame so you would think that the yield fare would as well if it was time limited.
Make sense?
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