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Old 01-13-2009 | 07:42 PM
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Oh, I see what your getting at.

Unlimited means you can travel to as many cities as your little heart desires, without limitation (ex: you only get 8 buddy passes now...NOT unlimited).

The next bullet point just says you get to keep those benefits for one year per year of service.
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Old 01-14-2009 | 01:10 AM
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So here's the head scratcher. I'm getting furloughed next week. Have 5.5 years of service. Have a SLIGHT possibility of getting a high paying/good benefits/solid retirement job locally, but that requires giving up 100+g's in flight training.

If I take the furlough, then I get good flight benefits until recall (which I'd either say no or take the recall, depending on the status of this other job). If I take the package, I automatically get sub-standard flight benefits for 5 years.

Hmmm, what to do.....
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Old 01-14-2009 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
So here's the head scratcher. I'm getting furloughed next week. Have 5.5 years of service. Have a SLIGHT possibility of getting a high paying/good benefits/solid retirement job locally, but that requires giving up 100+g's in flight training.

If I take the furlough, then I get good flight benefits until recall (which I'd either say no or take the recall, depending on the status of this other job). If I take the package, I automatically get sub-standard flight benefits for 5 years.

Hmmm, what to do.....
Make sure the job is firm. NO UNEMPLOYMENT if you take an early out package.
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Old 01-14-2009 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
So here's the head scratcher. I'm getting furloughed next week. Have 5.5 years of service. Have a SLIGHT possibility of getting a high paying/good benefits/solid retirement job locally, but that requires giving up 100+g's in flight training.

If I take the furlough, then I get good flight benefits until recall (which I'd either say no or take the recall, depending on the status of this other job). If I take the package, I automatically get sub-standard flight benefits for 5 years.

Hmmm, what to do.....
Did you work for the company before and keep your seniority number? Otherwise I don't see how 5.5 YOS would have you furloughed. Tough call though. As much as I hate to say it, these flight benefits aren't that much of a benefit anymore anyway. For someone in Cincy, you can fly Southwest out of IIU positive space for cheaper than a yield fare ticket to a lot of places and to other places you may pay $40 more for a possitive space ticket vs. s-4 on yield fare ticket to most likely not get on.

I realize they won't change it, but each of those programs should have regular flying benefits - the buddy passes, but just for different durations. This little detail which most likely costs them peanuts will probably cause this to be a deal breaker for some.
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Old 01-14-2009 | 04:58 AM
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I don't see many folks taking this package, number one reason is that there are no other jobs to go too. No unemployment if you take it, and the compensation part is paltry.

If Comair/Delta want to get rid of thier high labor cost on the pilot/FA side, they need to sweeten the pot, like free education, some type of pay, early retirement with full benefits, etc.
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Old 01-14-2009 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
Did you work for the company before and keep your seniority number? Otherwise I don't see how 5.5 YOS would have you furloughed.
He likes telling people he's been at Comair for 5.5 years, but he was a ramp tower resource giving instruction cleared to push hold short fuelburn recorder south line 3 fox ground point 7 coordinator for 3.5 years.
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Old 01-14-2009 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
He likes telling people he's been at Comair for 5.5 years, but he was a ramp tower resource giving instruction cleared to push hold short fuelburn recorder south line 3 fox ground point 7 coordinator for 3.5 years.
5,5 years is still 5.5 years no matter what you did before you were a pilot. I'd say that since he is being furloughed and has the time under his belt to take an early out option, he is the lucky one. At least he has the option.
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Old 01-14-2009 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
He likes telling people he's been at Comair for 5.5 years, but he was a ramp tower resource giving instruction cleared to push hold short fuelburn recorder south line 3 fox ground point 7 coordinator for 3.5 years.

Something wrong with your Cheerios today?
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Old 01-14-2009 | 07:04 AM
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Alright, let me ask the obvious (to me) question: what's the difference between a yield fare and a buddy pass? Or, more to the point, what's a yield fare?
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Old 01-14-2009 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by makersmarc
Alright, let me ask the obvious (to me) question: what's the difference between a yield fare and a buddy pass? Or, more to the point, what's a yield fare?
I believe it's the same.

So are these yield fare tickets based on your current seniority I wonder? Do they stay at that seniorty, or are they below an active pilot with one year of seniority buddy passes?

So would this be 10 weeks pay + pay for your vacation? Technically you've been awarded your vacation so that should be included.

You wouldn't think many people would take this, but I have been talking with numerous FOs that are considering going back to school full-time. For them this might actually help. I would say that everything but the flying benefits portion of this is decent. What more could you expect from a nickel-and-dime store?
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