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Old 08-15-2009 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
funny you mentioned that, flew with a union guy and he mentioned a pilot was recently fired for refusing a plane for a deferred APU.

No other details so it could be rumor, but he is pretty reliable.
I think he is just suspended for investigation. Comair can fight OSHA if they want to fire that guy.
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Old 08-15-2009 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
I'm not surprised after reading SB's testimony. According to him, if the MEL says its safe, then that overrides the captains authority. Obviously if the MEL says so, its safe! Nevermind 120 degree temps in the cabin.
Meh... I could see it now... Anti-Skid MEL'd, winter, landing State College, PA. 1" packed snow on runway. CA refuses the flight, SB says "GO! Or else!"....
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Old 08-16-2009 | 09:39 AM
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SB flew us to DCA on Friday morning. First time I've seen him out of the GO cafeteria and in the cockpit!
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Old 08-16-2009 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by skyslug
I would think summer time, inadequate cooling, no presence of ground conditioned air, full plane...that would and could induce illness in many people especially when the temps in that tube get above 33C and climbing. Add to it the constant high humidity and the "feels like" temp would be horrendous and I would suspect life threatening to some people.

Why is it the news puts out warnings on hot days with high humidity for people to take it easy and stay inside lest they overheat or suffer heat related consequences....

To me that is reason enough to refuse a plane. Would you please be so kind as to find me another one with a working APU...simple!
Oh believe me I know he whole story since I was here in the SOCC when it happened. He'll win!
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Old 08-16-2009 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by skyslug
You can MEL the APU but yet still fly it. In the summer time I just don't understand why you don't refuse the plane...talk about safety of flight!!! I've seen sick passengers (one passed out that I witnessed) and once the plane is hot (no APU) you can basically never cool it down. THAT to me is a safety hazard.
Infinitely worse is having the right pack deferred. At least with an INOP APU you get 100% cooling after takeoff. With the right pack, you lose 70% of the air conditioning in the back at all times.

I've heard ASA has a policy where if the APU is deferred and the cabin is 33? 35? Celsius, they can refuse the airplane. Comair's position is that it's uncomfortable, not unsafe. Let's hope this case injects a bit more common sense into the operation.
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Old 08-16-2009 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by H46Bubba
SB flew us to DCA on Friday morning. First time I've seen him out of the GO cafeteria and in the cockpit!
Nah... too easy
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Old 08-16-2009 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by H46Bubba
SB flew us to DCA on Friday morning. First time I've seen him out of the GO cafeteria and in the cockpit!
He usually stands next to the aircraft and smiles at the peeps as they board. That is, when he displaces a pilot from a productive trip, takes a vacation day and then picks up the open-time to fly it.
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Old 08-16-2009 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by H46Bubba
SB flew us to DCA on Friday morning. First time I've seen him out of the GO cafeteria and in the cockpit!
Did he turn to the side and try to suck his gut in just to get into the cockpit? I was in the 70/90 for awhile and my preflight brief to myself was stepping on his head to get out the escape hatch since he would just be a plug!
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Old 08-16-2009 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by captainv
Infinitely worse is having the right pack deferred. At least with an INOP APU you get 100% cooling after takeoff. With the right pack, you lose 70% of the air conditioning in the back at all times.

I've heard ASA has a policy where if the APU is deferred and the cabin is 33? 35? Celsius, they can refuse the airplane. Comair's position is that it's uncomfortable, not unsafe. Let's hope this case injects a bit more common sense into the operation.
ya because comair=common sense
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Old 08-17-2009 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by teamdothis
ya because comair=common sense
Well, the more people sweat, the less they weigh. Lower a/c weight = more fuel savings.

We can call it PEEPASS (since the pax will be too dehydrated to use the lav) and sell it to Mother (********R) Delta.

PPAS + PEEPASS = more savings! Team players guys...team players. We furloughees are just dying to come back...
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