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Old 04-09-2012 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by makersmarc
I was there for that vote, and I can assure you that you are quite mistaken. For one, when you begin a statement with "The Comair pilots thought for sure..." you reveal yourself to be nothing more than a presumptuous ass.
Arguing with "Ominous" is about as sane as this:

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Old 04-09-2012 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mumu
Arguing with "Ominous" is about as sane as this:

That looks a little like a Chevy Chase haircut.
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Old 04-09-2012 | 07:49 PM
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I voted for the "freeze" LOA. I personally viewed it as "poor man's scope" at the time. It was fairly obvious that DL was headed for Chapter 11 at that time and my thought process was that if we went in with a signed agreement that said OH was to maintain a certain number of aircraft, then there would be at least some semblance of job protection. You didn't have too be a beancounter to determine how badly we were being underbid by our peers at every other DCI carrier and if a two year freeze gave everyone else time to catch up to our contract while maintaining a minimum fleet, then I viewed it as a positive overall. Obviously, with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight I know that it was wrong. I certanly didn't count on DL raping us as badly as they did in BK and in the years since.

Anyway, just a little insight into my one "yes" vote. Thanks for the walk down memory lane... ;-)
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Old 04-10-2012 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
That looks a little like a Chevy Chase haircut.
Good guess...

But I'd be up for a comic recut of The Shining with Chevy Chase instead of Jack.


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Old 04-11-2012 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Let me get this straight...

Comair raises the bar for regional pay and benefits in 2001 and Delta punishes us = Karma

Comair votes for a pay freeze in 2005 and Delta punishes us = Karma

What would you do if you were at Comair? What would you do to outwit the beancounters at Delta, who are apparently the ones in charge of handing out Karma?
This is so great, I don't visit this thread forever and just a rehash of yrs ago. The vote for the freeze was dumber than the stike. You guys don't seem to understand, you **** of masta you get whipped, sorry for the analogy-no malice intended. But, cmr strike was useless, we set the bar for maybe a yr than joined in the rest in selling each other out to keep a few planes around. The pay freeze was nothing more than a cut...
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Old 04-12-2012 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mumu
Arguing with "Ominous" is about as sane as this:


This is the problem with you young pups...

You can't have an intelligent, adult conversation about this industry without thinking it is an "argument". And you think you can say something of little relevance, and then post some witty HTML or poster and think you are making the point of all points. Welcome to the adult world... And if you are going to think you're in an "argument" and have your feathers ruffled every time someone doesn't share your viewpoint, it is going to be a long road for you.

A couple of people on here manned up and admitted their "yes" vote was a mistake. Others still want to defend their yes votes as if it did no harm to anyone... Great. I disagree.
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Old 04-12-2012 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ominous
This is the problem with you young pups...

You can't have an intelligent, adult conversation about this industry without thinking it is an "argument". And you think you can say something of little relevance, and then post some witty HTML or poster and think you are making the point of all points. Welcome to the adult world... And if you are going to think you're in an "argument" and have your feathers ruffled every time someone doesn't share your viewpoint, it is going to be a long road for you.

A couple of people on here manned up and admitted their "yes" vote was a mistake. Others still want to defend their yes votes as if it did no harm to anyone... Great. I disagree.
1. I've voted NO on every issue put before our pilot group since 2005.
2. I'm 43...not a "young pup." Don't make assumptions. It comes off as an ad hominem attack, a common pitfall used in debate and logic. I just happen to disagree with your assessment of our pilot group's karma.
3. I thought the Jack Nicholson .gif was funny.
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Old 04-12-2012 | 02:53 PM
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Saying that Comair pilots are young pups is about the same as calling the pilots at American young pups. When you have 20 year upgrades and the most junior people on property being there for at least 5 years, I don't think there are any young pups left.
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Old 04-13-2012 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
Saying that Comair pilots are young pups is about the same as calling the pilots at American young pups. When you have 20 year upgrades and the most junior people on property being there for at least 5 years, I don't think there are any young pups left.


Gents, it was written in jest... Thus the after the comment. So take a chill pill.

And 45 year olds can act just as childish in a conversation as a 13 year old. That is not written in jest.
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Old 04-13-2012 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ominous
Gents, it was written in jest... Thus the after the comment. So take a chill pill.

And 45 year olds can act just as childish in a conversation as a 13 year old. That is not written in jest.

Give it up, sonny. You won't convince any Comair guys (current or former) of anything they don't already know.
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