Comair updates?
10-19-2008 | 04:46 PM
#9061
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yeah I heard this rumor from a friend in RGS a few days ago, if we don't go with the UA flying means more furloughs ,UA is gonna be all 50seat flying and is a way for Delta to get rid of them..... confused, don't know if anyone heard similar about more furloughs
10-19-2008 | 05:13 PM
#9062
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How sad is it that we're groveling for more flying with another airline that's managed probably just as badly as DL is. The only saving grace in the UA deal would be that maybe we would be ground-handled by Comair stations where they exist, and even that might not be guaranteed.
Another round of furloughs is not only plausible but I'd say very likely. Even if Freedom went the way of the dodo, who's to say Delta would replace that regional feed. All this as we watch the NW wholly-owneds (soon to be DCI carriers) growing like mad. It's easy to grant unawarded flying to carriers when they're not "Delta" yet (read: Mesaba and Compass).
Another round of furloughs is not only plausible but I'd say very likely. Even if Freedom went the way of the dodo, who's to say Delta would replace that regional feed. All this as we watch the NW wholly-owneds (soon to be DCI carriers) growing like mad. It's easy to grant unawarded flying to carriers when they're not "Delta" yet (read: Mesaba and Compass).
10-19-2008 | 05:41 PM
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Not saying it's right, just that's the way it is.
10-19-2008 | 06:51 PM
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You really want to know? It's because Delta is actually paying for all the fuel that the DCI carriers burn and in an effort to control costs, they make the mainline crews do these things. So as the mainline crews were doing all these things behind a DCI airplane which is taxing with both engines and the APU running, or sitting at the gate with the APU running, comments were made to Flt Ops about the disparity. Long story short, "You know what" rolls downhill, and management found another stick to threaten the DCI carriers with. Don't get your costs inline by burning too much fuel, and they will use the numbers against you ala Mesa.
Not saying it's right, just that's the way it is.
Not saying it's right, just that's the way it is.
As for using the APU at the gate, well there is a big disparity. most places we seem to park like jfk or atl, don't have the ground power or won't plug it in. The ground crews will almost never plug us in with ground air or it isn't available or it won't reach. For mainline they have it waiting and it takes maybe 30 to 60 seconds after block in for them to have it up and running.
10-19-2008 | 07:27 PM
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Rumor is that the only flying United has available is 50 seat lift and OH isn't interested in that. United is limited to the number of 70 seat aircraft providing lift, so it doensn't appear that we will get anything from them.
I just find it hard to believe that there were many options on the table during the bankruptcy to mitigate the amount of furloughs and here we are not in BK and nothing has been done. Simply just telling people to go home, while abusing the ones that are left.
I just find it hard to believe that there were many options on the table during the bankruptcy to mitigate the amount of furloughs and here we are not in BK and nothing has been done. Simply just telling people to go home, while abusing the ones that are left.
10-19-2008 | 10:50 PM
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Oh, and gas is down to $2.37 a gallon in DSM. Never thought I'd see that again.
10-20-2008 | 12:00 AM
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I find this hard to believe. Why the eff would Comair turn down any chance at more flying? Sure, Comair would prefer more 70 seat flying, but if the only offer on the table is for 50s, I would REALLY like to think that they will snatch it up before it's too late. If the decline in oilprices continues, 50 seat flying can be profitable again.
Oh, and gas is down to $2.37 a gallon in DSM. Never thought I'd see that again.
Oh, and gas is down to $2.37 a gallon in DSM. Never thought I'd see that again.
I would agree on that. With Comair pulling so many 50-seaters off of Delta Connection, why not keep them flying if United wants them to do that? Anyway, $2.37 in DSM? Damn....it's down to $3.57 in HNL. And I thought that was cheap.
10-20-2008 | 04:11 AM
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Here we go again....
I find this hard to believe. Why the eff would Comair turn down any chance at more flying? Sure, Comair would prefer more 70 seat flying, but if the only offer on the table is for 50s, I would REALLY like to think that they will snatch it up before it's too late. If the decline in oilprices continues, 50 seat flying can be profitable again.
Oh, and gas is down to $2.37 a gallon in DSM. Never thought I'd see that again.
Oh, and gas is down to $2.37 a gallon in DSM. Never thought I'd see that again.
10-20-2008 | 04:43 AM
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From: ERJ FO
otto, while i see your point on takeing any and every bit of flying you can get, in the regional market... there is something said about sticking to your guns and holding out for better work rules, wages, etc. etc. etc. what would have been next? lower wages on the 50 because of having a lower wage on the DOjet?
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