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Old 10-20-2008 | 04:47 AM
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Pizza PARTY in ops? This is inappropriate...........
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Old 10-20-2008 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dbo861
I find this hard to believe. Why the eff would Comair turn down any chance at more flying? Sure, Comair would prefer more 70 seat flying, but if the only offer on the table is for 50s, I would REALLY like to think that they will snatch it up before it's too late. If the decline in oilprices continues, 50 seat flying can be profitable again.

Oh, and gas is down to $2.37 a gallon in DSM. Never thought I'd see that again.
50 seat flying might make money today, but most likely it won't tomorrow. Notice how OPEC stated this morning that they are going to cut production? The demand is less at the moment, because we are in shambles over the economy. Once the trend starts to swing back the other way, we will start driving more again and oil will start moving back up. People are already liable to start driving more just based on the lower prices at the pump. That alone will raise oil again.

If 50 seat flying makes money and we should pick it up anywhere we can get it, then why are there so many of our aircraft parked and pilots furloughed? Wouldn't Delta be puting those airframes in the air?
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Old 10-20-2008 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Otto
Yep...MESA! Way to go MEC...thanks for opening the door for Freedom. The point is if you are given an oppurtunity for new flying, you ALWAYS TAKE IT.
So what. If you wanted to work for peanuts you could have applied at Mesa. Mesa was coming either way, they were hired assassins to undermine our contract for BK.
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Old 10-20-2008 | 06:03 AM
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[quote=TurboDog;482138]Rumor is that the only flying United has available is 50 seat lift and OH isn't interested in that. United is limited to the number of 70 seat aircraft providing lift, so it doensn't appear that we will get anything from them.


I believe it is true that Comair turned down flying for UA because the length of the contract was not very long (less than 12 months, maybe?). (Doesn't make sense to put the time/money/effort into starting up ops with another carrier, only to cease to fly for them as soon as everything is up and running.) Upon turning down that contract, I believe we were invited by UA to bid on a more long-term RFP and that is where we stand right now--waiting for it to be awarded to someone.
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Old 10-20-2008 | 06:07 AM
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Well said ComairFO...."bully"
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Old 10-20-2008 | 06:15 AM
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[quote=ComairFO;482296]
Originally Posted by TurboDog
Rumor is that the only flying United has available is 50 seat lift and OH isn't interested in that. United is limited to the number of 70 seat aircraft providing lift, so it doensn't appear that we will get anything from them.


I believe it is true that Comair turned down flying for UA because the length of the contract was not very long (less than 12 months, maybe?). (Doesn't make sense to put the time/money/effort into starting up ops with another carrier, only to cease to fly for them as soon as everything is up and running.) Upon turning down that contract, I believe we were invited by UA to bid on a more long-term RFP and that is where we stand right now--waiting for it to be awarded to someone.
I agree that we probably have a bid in, however unless someone drops out there will be no room for more 70+ flying. As of right now it's under scope, so unless something changes Comair still stands on it's knees begging for more money to buy another crack rock to get them by for another day.
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Old 10-20-2008 | 06:34 AM
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I would still like someone either in management or at ALPA to comment on the exponential growth at NW's wholly-owned regionals as of late. After the DL/NW merger Compass and Mesaba will be DCI carriers. Our 2007 TA had stipulations in it for Comair to receive a percentage of "unawarded aircraft" that started at 40% in 2007 and decreased in 10% increments each year. Yet one more reason I voted "no" on that piece of ****e. And now we sit and watch soon-to-be-but-not-quite-yet DCI carriers getting new airframes as we furlough and park airframes. Once again we're made to look like fools by lawyers and manager that at the end of the day are smarter than we are.

So while we bicker about ASAP and launch ad hominems at the same targets each day I'm reminded of a playground fight: "I know you are but what am I....my dad is bigger than your dad....am too...are not..."

Now, excuse me while I go pay my $20.00 merger assessment fee......
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Old 10-20-2008 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
So what. If you wanted to work for peanuts you could have applied at Mesa. Mesa was coming either way, they were hired assassins to undermine our contract for BK.
If you guys think Delta is going to give us (Mesa) any more flying, you're nuts.

I'm sure someone can dredge up the transcript of the Delta earnings call, but Delta's CEO made it very clear that Delta wants nothing to do with us once the court issues are resolved.
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Old 10-20-2008 | 07:48 AM
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The only thing I saw in the conference call was that Delta intends to "rigorously fight the Mesa lawsuit."

FWIW, they also talked about how beneficial it will be to have 3 wholly-owned carriers after the merger, should the need arise to reduce domestic capacity even more.

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Old 10-20-2008 | 09:05 AM
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is eMisery down again?
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