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02-02-2017 | 04:05 PM
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Fair enough, I just saw it in a coupla messages, then realized it was BS after I posted.
Still... 4-8 weeks on the couch, and you will be behind your peers who go straight thru training and on to a line. Only by your hold up, but I know guys who sat as an FO for an extra 3 years because of a 2-week delay in the past.
What is RSV time at PDT these days after IOE?
Still... 4-8 weeks on the couch, and you will be behind your peers who go straight thru training and on to a line. Only by your hold up, but I know guys who sat as an FO for an extra 3 years because of a 2-week delay in the past.
What is RSV time at PDT these days after IOE?
Interview in February, finish OE and start building hours towards your upgrade by the 4th of July.
02-02-2017 | 04:17 PM
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Ok, but I stand by the reasoning that at another airline one could interview in February, be in class in March, hit the line in July, and be at least 4 weeks ahead of the PDT new hire. 5 months from interview to having a line.
In your example, interview in February, hit the line in August or September. That guy will be a month or two behind the power curve, by my math.
It only matters when that new guy hits the tipping point of the upgrade fulcrum. At some point, the fast upgrade will be gone, and the first guy after that will wish he hadn't sat on the couch for 4-8 weeks is all I am saying.
In your example, interview in February, hit the line in August or September. That guy will be a month or two behind the power curve, by my math.
It only matters when that new guy hits the tipping point of the upgrade fulcrum. At some point, the fast upgrade will be gone, and the first guy after that will wish he hadn't sat on the couch for 4-8 weeks is all I am saying.
02-02-2017 | 04:39 PM
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Ok, but I stand by the reasoning that at another airline one could interview in February, be in class in March, hit the line in July, and be at least 4 weeks ahead of the PDT new hire. 5 months from interview to having a line.
In your example, interview in February, hit the line in August or September. That guy will be a month or two behind the power curve, by my math.
It only matters when that new guy hits the tipping point of the upgrade fulcrum. At some point, the fast upgrade will be gone, and the first guy after that will wish he hadn't sat on the couch for 4-8 weeks is all I am saying.
In your example, interview in February, hit the line in August or September. That guy will be a month or two behind the power curve, by my math.
It only matters when that new guy hits the tipping point of the upgrade fulcrum. At some point, the fast upgrade will be gone, and the first guy after that will wish he hadn't sat on the couch for 4-8 weeks is all I am saying.
02-02-2017 | 04:42 PM
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Ok, but I stand by the reasoning that at another airline one could interview in February, be in class in March, hit the line in July, and be at least 4 weeks ahead of the PDT new hire. 5 months from interview to having a line.
In your example, interview in February, hit the line in August or September. That guy will be a month or two behind the power curve, by my math.
It only matters when that new guy hits the tipping point of the upgrade fulcrum. At some point, the fast upgrade will be gone, and the first guy after that will wish he hadn't sat on the couch for 4-8 weeks is all I am saying.
In your example, interview in February, hit the line in August or September. That guy will be a month or two behind the power curve, by my math.
It only matters when that new guy hits the tipping point of the upgrade fulcrum. At some point, the fast upgrade will be gone, and the first guy after that will wish he hadn't sat on the couch for 4-8 weeks is all I am saying.
This whole upgrade / flow / no rsv thing is a bit of a pyramid scheme. Everything remains rosy while there is growth. Lets not forget we have been in a up business cycle since 2009 - what happens with recession - music stops, upgrades stop, flow stops, misery rules all. This is not a new movie - its a rerun.
02-02-2017 | 04:45 PM
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What does little reserve mean? 2 weeks, or 2 months? I can't figure out how any airline can run without an active reserve list of pilots for when plan A fails.. Or is it senior guys bidding reserve because they would rather watch Oprah from their couch?
Not trolling - just can't figure this out (my ignorance)
Not trolling - just can't figure this out (my ignorance)
02-02-2017 | 04:47 PM
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Sitting on the couch is sitting on the couch (Oprah!) - some people like sitting at home making minimum guarantee - others would rather be working their tails off accumulating flying hours towards the upgrade. to each his own.
This whole upgrade / flow / no rsv thing is a bit of a pyramid scheme. Everything remains rosy while there is growth. Lets not forget we have been in a up business cycle since 2009 - what happens with recession - music stops, upgrades stop, flow stops, misery rules all. This is not a new movie - its a rerun.
This whole upgrade / flow / no rsv thing is a bit of a pyramid scheme. Everything remains rosy while there is growth. Lets not forget we have been in a up business cycle since 2009 - what happens with recession - music stops, upgrades stop, flow stops, misery rules all. This is not a new movie - its a rerun.
Or, sit around and overthink, doubt what's happening in front of your eyes, miss out.
02-02-2017 | 04:49 PM
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What does little reserve mean? 2 weeks, or 2 months? I can't figure out how any airline can run without an active reserve list of pilots for when plan A fails.. Or is it senior guys bidding reserve because they would rather watch Oprah from their couch?
Not trolling - just can't figure this out (my ignorance)
Not trolling - just can't figure this out (my ignorance)
It works by cancelling more flights than you'd like due to crew availability and ****ing off American as a result hahah
02-02-2017 | 04:57 PM
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Not trying to be a teacher's pet - just playing the long game - whats good for the airline is good for the pilot.
02-02-2017 | 05:01 PM
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That does not sound like a winning strategy. If I were a NH at PDT, I would rather sit reserve than have the airline (note signature at bottom of paycheck) be forced to cancel flights!
Not trying to be a teacher's pet - just playing the long game - whats good for the airline is good for the pilot.
Not trying to be a teacher's pet - just playing the long game - whats good for the airline is good for the pilot.
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