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Gets Weekends Off
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Were you MDT based in this bid or displaced by a MDT pilot? Reading FIL 17-16, it says this:
"First Officers who are displaced from MDT or First Officers who may be displaced from their current
position due to seniority may bid an open Captain's position and are not subject to a Category Freeze."
If neither of those two situations applied, then I beleive that is why you did not receive the CA award.
Gets Weekends Off
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From: Gear Slinger
There are unfilled slots. mm1989 didn't get his jet captain uograde bid awarded because I believe he was a dash hire in October. Dash FO's are currently locked in airframe until they have been on property for two years.... If mm1989 is a 145 FO, and I was mistaken, then I don't know why his bid would have not been awarded. In either case, I wouldn't be surprised if they lift the airframe lock soon. Short on captains.... They called back the guys from the January class that have upgrade mins. The rest of the class will come back later this month. Upgrades will be instant once you're off OE for anyone who has the time.
Gets Weekends Off
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From: Line holder, barely
What happens with unfilled Captain slots?
Does that mean cancelled flights, or does that mean longer hours for those that are PIC already?
Do they plan far enough ahead that it means they know to release seat locks to fill them in coming bids?
Does it mean they slow down Jet deliveries?
If they get too many captains, can they put a captain in the right seat?
let my nooB status be clearly evident!
Does that mean cancelled flights, or does that mean longer hours for those that are PIC already?
Do they plan far enough ahead that it means they know to release seat locks to fill them in coming bids?
Does it mean they slow down Jet deliveries?

If they get too many captains, can they put a captain in the right seat?
let my nooB status be clearly evident!
What happens with unfilled Captain slots?
Does that mean cancelled flights, or does that mean longer hours for those that are PIC already?
Do they plan far enough ahead that it means they know to release seat locks to fill them in coming bids?
Does it mean they slow down Jet deliveries?
If they get too many captains, can they put a captain in the right seat?
let my nooB status be clearly evident!
Does that mean cancelled flights, or does that mean longer hours for those that are PIC already?
Do they plan far enough ahead that it means they know to release seat locks to fill them in coming bids?
Does it mean they slow down Jet deliveries?

If they get too many captains, can they put a captain in the right seat?
let my nooB status be clearly evident!
Gets Weekends Off
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There are unfilled slots. mm1989 didn't get his jet captain uograde bid awarded because I believe he was a dash hire in October. Dash FO's are currently locked in airframe until they have been on property for two years.... If mm1989 is a 145 FO, and I was mistaken, then I don't know why his bid would have not been awarded. In either case, I wouldn't be surprised if they lift the airframe lock soon. Short on captains.... They called back the guys from the January class that have upgrade mins. The rest of the class will come back later this month. Upgrades will be instant once you're off OE for anyone who has the time.
New Hire
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Well if they would get the Dec class in the sims anytime soon then they would have several guys who are able to upgrade immediately. Or if they would change the requirement to complete OE prior to upgrading and just send the guys who have the prior 121 time directly to CA training (I know this isn't possible bc they aren't certified for DEC I believe, but maybe they should look into getting that certification)
I will second this statement!!
Line Holder
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There are unfilled slots. mm1989 didn't get his jet captain uograde bid awarded because I believe he was a dash hire in October. Dash FO's are currently locked in airframe until they have been on property for two years.... If mm1989 is a 145 FO, and I was mistaken, then I don't know why his bid would have not been awarded. In either case, I wouldn't be surprised if they lift the airframe lock soon. Short on captains.... They called back the guys from the January class that have upgrade mins. The rest of the class will come back later this month. Upgrades will be instant once you're off OE for anyone who has the time.
Line Holder
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I believe this is correct ^^
a. A first officer who successfully completes training in a new Category shall not be awarded another Category for twenty-four (24) months commencing with the first day of revenue service in such new Category unless:
(1) the Category is for newly introduced or re-introduced aircraft;
or
(2) the Category was obtained as a result of displacement; or
(3) the Category will afford the pilot a captain upgrade; or
(4) the Category will afford the pilot preparation for captain upgrade in accordance with paragraph b., below.
b. In the event the pilot desires to upgrade in equipment other than that which he is currently flying, such pilot may bid a first officer position in the equipment in which he desires to upgrade, provided that it is estimated that the pilot will be able to hold a captain’s position in that equipment within three (3) months of the projected completion of his training. A pilot who bids pursuant to this paragraph must bid to upgrade by the end of the three (3) month period in the equipment in which he was most recently trained.
(3) and (4) says even if you're brand new on the dash once you finish SOE according to the pilot contract you can bid out with certain stipulations.
a. A first officer who successfully completes training in a new Category shall not be awarded another Category for twenty-four (24) months commencing with the first day of revenue service in such new Category unless:
(1) the Category is for newly introduced or re-introduced aircraft;
or
(2) the Category was obtained as a result of displacement; or
(3) the Category will afford the pilot a captain upgrade; or
(4) the Category will afford the pilot preparation for captain upgrade in accordance with paragraph b., below.
b. In the event the pilot desires to upgrade in equipment other than that which he is currently flying, such pilot may bid a first officer position in the equipment in which he desires to upgrade, provided that it is estimated that the pilot will be able to hold a captain’s position in that equipment within three (3) months of the projected completion of his training. A pilot who bids pursuant to this paragraph must bid to upgrade by the end of the three (3) month period in the equipment in which he was most recently trained.
(3) and (4) says even if you're brand new on the dash once you finish SOE according to the pilot contract you can bid out with certain stipulations.
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