Brokeasspot

We can only see a month in advance, but plenty of triple premium available. I personally don't see how people do it, since the majority of lines are min days off!

Brokeasspot

I'm pulling the number off my paycheck, so I'd say it's pretty accurate. Don't know about the bonuses, was hired before that. But, if you count on anything above guarante, your just going to screw yourself. So far, my Jan, feb and mar lines are less than 75 hours. But, at least you get guarantee.

reandld

Any new hires going for the March Dash class?

MidLife

The retention bonus is 20K total, but only 10k/yr. so 20k over 2nd and 3rd year. By 2nd yr you should be eligible to upgrade, so you just get 2 yr ca pay then or 63/hr. The ca bonus of 7,500 is not over the FO bonus, so you won't get that again.

HighFlight

Thanks for the assist fellas.

So 1st year at PDT for a new hire without 121 time, it's $35,100 + $16,200 or $51,300.

2nd year is $36,153 + $10,000 or $46,153.

And I completely agree with you on the min guarantee, Brokeasspot. I don't do any magical doctoring of numbers like TSA does when they make their claim of $75K first year pay, or Envoy's $60K claim. Min guarantee plus bonus at signing is all I look at.

Oh, and I trust you on the pay rate BAP... only questioned the source because of the salary difference here on APC. Thank you for providing a more correct number!

MidLife

HF. you can compute those precise actual total compensation #s all you want, but that can not, rather SHOULD not be the deciding factor. Pick the QoL, base and advancement potential that fits your view, and go to the best choice. I know all that can change at the drop of the proverbial hat, but start there and hope for the best, and the shortest stay at regionals possible. With boomer retirement here, going to the majors should not be that hard in next 3-6 yrs

HighFlight

Absolutely, 100% correct!! You know I am not in this for the money, but I DO try to paint an accurate picture of what a company pays vs. what a company advertises to new hires, some of which are not willing to do their due diligence. And many of these new guys and gals NEED the extra money, in a bad way.

However, with more companies paying north of $50K, the financial aspect is becoming better for those that come here with huge student loans, or a family and a mortgage. Which is a great thing.

It just bugs me that PDT, ENY, and EDV advertise $60K, and TSA advertises $75K. Several folks out there will likely read that on here, or on the company website, and actually fall for it. Sure, $60K at a WO is achievable, but it's not min guarantee, which I encourage everyone to use as the yardstick, in case the music stops tomorrow.

Keep the dirty side down!

Farmlover

Edv actually pays that. No secret on that so don't lump us in with them.
Many first year guys are seeing well north of 70k if they want to. 60k is norm.

aviatorckf

So Endeavor pays $30/hr for 1st year FO with a minimum guarantee of 75hrs/month - that's a $27,000 base. Then you add $10,000 training bonus and a $20,000 retention bonus, and $3,000 per diem for a total compensation of $60,000. This is exactly like all of the other regionals so why wouldn't they be lumped into the mix?

MidLife

Ok. I get it. It's a PSA!
Now calm down you PSA Pilots. I mean Public Service Announcement