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Old 09-01-2014 | 08:58 PM
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Ahh yes, just like the rumors that rah would lose it's feed contract and envoy would take over..... Hahahaha! Barring a buy out of compass those planes will stay there for at least 10 years!
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Old 09-01-2014 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JT8D
If you can't think of any more ways out of a feed contract than 1, you're certainly not management material, and should probably not be hypothesizing on their plans or actions.

Patience there, buddy. Time will tell who is right...

In the meantime you should maybe think about getting LAID! If you can't get laid maybe rubbing one out will help. Remember it is the champagne of victory. And it will allow you to not be so wound up over Piedmont's vote.
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Old 09-01-2014 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunkin
Why didn't you guys get the 70 CRJ900s and 150 E175s guaranteed to you by voting in your Ch 11 contract? Seems stupid to vote that in and then in return see your future go to other airlines. Probably should have had better negotiators at the table because now you are on the outside looking in wishing you could get a few of those BK scraps. All the envoy tough guy stuff is hilarious, you guys screwed up your Ch 11 CBA horribly and now you are about to get a crappy PBS system with out any growth. You're upset but you have no one to blame but all the Envoy yes voters.

Envoy though talk, that's funny. You guys are seriously going to wish you had a Delorian after you get raked over the coals again. I hope you remember 2003 when PSA hosed you and Allegheny. BOHICA PDT. I'll keep my crappy BK contract and work rules. You are about to sell your souls for one shiny jet, most likely a single 700 and a bunch of washed up 140's/200's. All for a commitment to shrink to half your size, doubling your cost of healthcare, and capping your pay at 12/4. The Titanic had smaller holes than that TA, that your MEC ratified and supported for membership ratification. Thanks for signing in solidarity at the ALPA FFD committee meetings as well. Good luck getting up to 88 mph, bros.
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Old 09-01-2014 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bogeymtsu
Envoy though talk, that's funny. You guys are seriously going to wish you had a Delorian after you get raked over the coals again. I hope you remember 2003 when PSA hosed you and Allegheny. BOHICA PDT. I'll keep my crappy BK contract and work rules. You are about to sell your souls for one shiny jet, most likely a single 700 and a bunch of washed up 140's/200's. All for a commitment to shrink to half your size, doubling your cost of healthcare, and capping your pay at 12/4. The Titanic had smaller holes than that TA, that your MEC ratified and supported for membership ratification. Thanks for signing in solidarity at the ALPA FFD committee meetings as well. Good luck getting up to 88 mph, bros.
Everybody is making fun of pdt, really? you have to bring up the psa deal? Again, just relax guys! Ain't your vote.
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Old 09-01-2014 | 09:31 PM
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Point is it wasn't just "our" vote when XJT, RAH, and ENY held the line. You obviously are forgetting the past. Go ahead, ratify that piece of swiss cheese, if thats what suits you. At the end of the day you only have to answer to yourself for your decisions.
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Old 09-01-2014 | 09:33 PM
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Here is some food for thought. How many poster on here are actual PDT pilots and how many are company paid "consultants" or managent. Can you tell the difference. Is that you lurking Jerry? How much does it cost to push a yes vote anyway?
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Old 09-01-2014 | 09:35 PM
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I was hoping the Glass Man, would enjoy my Back to the Future reference.
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Old 09-01-2014 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bogeymtsu
Point is it wasn't just "our" vote when XJT, RAH, and ENY held the line. You obviously are forgetting the past. Go ahead, ratify that piece of swiss cheese, if thats what suits you. At the end of the day you only have to answer to yourself for your decisions.
Point is, I wouldn't come into your house and start screaming, I expect the same.
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Old 09-01-2014 | 09:43 PM
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Sometimes the only way to get the attention of the room is to make some loud noise. Especially when you are being threatened by the same group that said they would shut down Envoy, without a yes vote. That same group that has been trying to repair that screw-up for nearly a year now. Most of the ENY pilots here, want you to stand with us to get an industry standard contract, especially when the parent corp is rolling in cash. However, your MEC chair bailed on the FFD committee as did a few other carriers relative to your size. Furthermore, the language in that TA is horrible and offers nothing to your benefit. Please if you think it does, cite specific references. I have a copy and would be happy to go over your points. Also remember we have guys on our property that waited 16 years to flow through, if the music stops which it might, where will you be then? Wishing you made a better decision. Just like I wish we would have let AMR serve us up with an 1113.
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Old 09-01-2014 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by billyho
In the meantime you should maybe think about getting LAID! If you can't get laid maybe rubbing one out will help. Remember it is the champagne of victory. And it will allow you to not be so wound up over Piedmont's vote.
With a name like Billyho I'm almost suspicious that you're trying to offer some weird creepy kind of services here. Happily married, got that covered thanks. Ho yourself out elsewhere.
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