Originally Posted by MKUltra

Yes upgrade is available... I'm still an fo but hold a great line.. And I know I complain... I just want the best for everyone... We have some hard working and sweaty people here... Very sweaty.. I'm only joking about c4 but crazy u can make 20k more in a year there..

Originally Posted by Learjet84

American has said they want to triple PDT size. The number of new jets offered is pretty staggeringly high showing more growth than any regional right now.

Additionally... how can PDT be anything BUT the fastest flow. Look at the numbers for PSA, PDT, and Envoy.

PDT has a senior pilot group with around 80 people not wanting to leave their job. That means they have around 320 people that want to flow?
320 people/ 4 per month they're flowing is 6.6 years.
Factor in 2 per month leaving to United or Delta or wherever and 1 per month retiring?... that's losing 7 people per month
320/7 per month= 3.8 years which is better than their online propaganda states.

PSA has had their flow slowed SEVERAL times because management can decide they also have 3x the people PDT does.

Envoy has a nightmare of people flowing based on old flow and current flow and again has WAAAY more employees than PDT.

PDT has less employees than PSA and Envoy. Hands down, PDT has the fastest flow. Want the quickest path to upgrade, lots of money, and American? Its all a numbers game and every single answer points to PDT.

Originally Posted by MKUltra

I'm cautiously optimistic. Better pay, better schedules, respect to the grunts.. If you build it they will come..

People are walking around like zombies.. Plus those taking Triple Premium pay are plumb worn out.. I really want to see the best for this place since there are wonderful people here, but I hate seeing people taken advantage of. Pilots are no longer plentiful, treat us as the precious resource we are in this market. Too many FOs are leaving.

Originally Posted by boiler07

American WANTED to double - triple, whatever it is- PSA's size and that sort of (not at all) worked.

Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

This.... No AAG wholly owned can grow unless AAG decides to up the compensation. Period. It's just not happening. Envoy is ultimately shrinking. PSA has likely no growth left because we can barely staff what we have. And Piedmont is growing at Mach turtle. And it's only going to get worse going into 2017 and beyond. I'm not so optimistic that the flow is anything more than a way to get the top-paid regional CAs off the seniority lists and also attract some new hires. If you are more than 2 years from flowing I wouldn't count on it. Too much will change.

Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

This.... No AAG wholly owned can grow unless AAG decides to up the compensation. Period. It's just not happening. Envoy is ultimately shrinking. PSA has likely no growth left because we can barely staff what we have. And Piedmont is growing at Mach turtle. And it's only going to get worse going into 2017 and beyond. I'm not so optimistic that the flow is anything more than a way to get the top-paid regional CAs off the seniority lists and also attract some new hires. If you are more than 2 years from flowing I wouldn't count on it. Too much will change.

Originally Posted by payingdues

So you're an envoy or PSA FO...who has it all figured out? Rightttttt got it. Thanks bro.

Originally Posted by payingdues

So you're an envoy or PSA FO...who has it all figured out? Rightttttt got it. Thanks bro.

Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

I don't have anything figured out any more than you do compadre. But I think AA has a history of taking giant craps on its regional(s) and all the current signs point to another giant turd in the making. That could always change tomorrow though. All I know is that if AAG intends for its regional's to not only succeed but grow, they have a long way to go and not a lot of time to get there.

Originally Posted by Name User

AA has a history of cropping on their regionals? What about Delta?!?