Back to the original conversation, jumpseating on xjt. I found the printed jumpseat form for jumpseating internationally on xjt. I wish I could upload the image here, but the only way is to post a link to a webpage. Anyhow, lines 268-276 state,

"OAL INTERNATIONAL JUMPSEATING IS PROHIBITED. DO NOT USE THE 6:CRW2412/DGO-SMITH/JOHN.IAH ENTRY TO CREAT JUMPSEAT LISTINGS FOR OAL PILOTS TRAVELING FROM OUTSIDE THE U.S. TO THE U.S. THIS ENTRY MAY ONLY BE USED TO ADD COEX AND CO PILOTS TO THE MANIFEST."

APIS DATA MUST BE ACCURATELY ENTERED TO PREVENT TSA VIOLATIONS AND FINES. VERIFY WITH THE CREWMEMBER THE ACCURACY OF THE DATA ENTERED BEFORE SUBMITTING THE FORM."

As stated before, you can definately not jumpseat from outside the U.S. to the motherland on Xjet, but going out is not an issue.

As I recall correctly the main issue with jumpseating on Xjet is that you need to be listed on webjump and then APIS. But im a gear slinger, not a gate agent.

I carried this in my flight bag for 2 years commuting from MMMY via IAH. I stopped commuting from MMMY for the last 2 months, so there could have been a policy change in that time. Every time I tried to jumpseat to MMMY via IAH I was told I couldn't because of policy changes, but when I showed them on line 270 it doesn't say you cannot jumpseat USA-MEX, I always got a seat.

If redcoats had issues getting this to work, just have to find one that knows what they were doing. My experience is that the redcoats in the Pod of B79 were pretty good at getting me on my flight home every week for 2 years. So for those of you who say it is not possible, im still waving the B.S. flag, unless of course the policy changed in the last 2 months. Good luck!

 

Regarding SLW......

If you're talking overnight quality, yeah, it's not that great. But it is a Hampton with a killer free breakfast. The standard PITA of customs aside, there are PLENTY of other overnights in the U.S that suck way more.

If you're talking going in there operationally, it's not the high drama that it's made out to be. RNO was worse, way worse. LAS was overcomplicated as well.

 

I just looked up the current policy on our internal computer system.

ONLY XJT pilots and FAA or NTSB inspectors are authorized to jumpseat internationally (INBOUND or OUTBOUND) on XJT.

It specifically PROHIBITS Continental/CO Micronesia Pilots, XJT/CO dispatchers, any XJT personel other than pilots, and all OAL (other air line) pilots or dispatchers.

The reason from what I understand is the jumpseater's name needs to be added to the crew manifest, no matter where they are sitting in the plane, and for whatever reason, we can't put anyone except XJT pilots on the manifest right now, only XJT pilots or gov't inspectors can be listed on it. And if one of our guys is on it, they cannot use the crew lane at customs, they are still considered a passenger.

I have no idea, but maybe the reason behind this is the way some insurance policy somewhere is worded? XJT's insurance on int'l flights may not be valid if anyone other than company pilots or required crew are shown on the manifest? I dunno.

So, until something changes. Sorry.

 

Just to continue with the thread drift. Exjet is not a regional it is considered a Major. At least according to this website.

 

Well, instead of using some ancient minimum revenue number to classify a carrier as a "major" ($1B/yr I believe) why don't we just call an airline a major if they meet that threshold AND derive that revenue from a schedule that they choose. If the carrier's schedule is dictated by another company's management, then they are a sub-contractor ACMI provider, not a major airline by any stretch of imagination.

 

Seems like you have it all figured out then.

 

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I penciled in my name on the GenDec on all 10 copies just in case.... But like I said, I havent done this in 2 months so beats me. Could be worse, could be AA who denies anyone international jumpseating.... best of luck all!

 

Just wanted to get an update on this topic. I was not allowed to list as an OAL jumpseater for EWR-YUL on XJT even though there were plenty of open seats in the cabin. I was told by several agents at EWR that OAL jumpseat listing is prohibited. Fact or fiction?

 

You are an idiot.

So if "aa" means anything Eagle goes to Mexico...... so how did that happen! Scope? What's next? Canada? OMG the downward spiral continues!!!!

 

Someone posted this link in another thread.


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