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Old 02-25-2010 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Banshee365
Now now now... XJT's PBS is a bit different than ASA's. Don't get the two confused. Just because XJT's sucks doesn't mean ASA's will...
XJ=Mesaba
I don't think Express Jet (XE) has PBS.
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Old 02-25-2010 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by PSACFI
Wait, does voting in PBS make the non-furlough clause void? If so how could the pro-PBS ALPA supporters and the company ever hope to get it passed?


In terms of "overstaffed" vs. "understaffed" ASA has a little over 10 pilots per aircraft (APC lists 159 a/c, but ASA is losing 6 CRJs soon right? so the APC numbers of 153 planes and 1547 pilots is what I based my ratio off of). If PBS reduces the need for 10% of the pilots (like I've heard it can) then that eliminates 154 additional pilot positions. So that will require nearly 300 pilots worth of growth or attrition to absorb those spots and start hiring off the street again.

I'm thinking those furloughed from ASA might want to look for jobs in other places. It looks like it'll still be a rough going for you guys, sorry
Although it could always be worse, you could be Comair

they put a line in the loa saying that no pilot will be furloughed as a result of PBS.
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Old 02-25-2010 | 08:59 AM
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Had a brief chat with one of our chief pilots (KS) this morning and asked about summer recalls. His answer was that as it stands, there would be no summer recalls, but if Delta changed their minds about the summer schedule again and increases ASA's portion, it was possible. He also said we should know more by the beginning of April - after April there would be little point to recalling because they wouldn't be able to get people up to speed fast enough. He also indicated that the possible demise of Mesa might open up more opportunity for us on the United operation.

Personally, I'm skeptical that Delta would increase hours for ASA over what is scheduled now and I would be really surprised if Mesa actually went under. I think realistically we should not expect any recalls until next year. Pure speculation so take if for what it is!
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Old 02-26-2010 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gtechpilot
His answer was that as it stands, there would be no summer recalls, but if Delta changed their minds about the summer schedule again and increases ASA's portion, it was possible
According to the latest schedule bulletin released today, EV will soon get some of the MEM flying. MEM-BTR, MEM-CHA, MEM-LFT, MEM-MGM, MEM-SHV, MEM-STL, and OMA-MEM are all showing as operated by EV on the -200 in April. In addition, DL is launching twice weekly ATL-GGT (Exuma, Bahamas) on the EV -200 from mid-June.
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Old 02-28-2010 | 05:49 PM
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Bill,
actually they do have PBS.
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Old 02-28-2010 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by simuflite
According to the latest schedule bulletin released today, EV will soon get some of the MEM flying. MEM-BTR, MEM-CHA, MEM-LFT, MEM-MGM, MEM-SHV, MEM-STL, and OMA-MEM are all showing as operated by EV on the -200 in April. In addition, DL is launching twice weekly ATL-GGT (Exuma, Bahamas) on the EV -200 from mid-June.
Where do you see that at?
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Old 03-01-2010 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by simuflite
According to the latest schedule bulletin released today, EV will soon get some of the MEM flying. MEM-BTR, MEM-CHA, MEM-LFT, MEM-MGM, MEM-SHV, MEM-STL, and OMA-MEM are all showing as operated by EV on the -200 in April. In addition, DL is launching twice weekly ATL-GGT (Exuma, Bahamas) on the EV -200 from mid-June.
SH told us about this in recurrent recently. Also no new growth to take advantage of the PBS system for a couple of years when some of the other regional contracts come up for bid. So that will mean downgrades due to loss of some more of our Delta planes in August. He also said that we get most of the open time pick up, swap and dropping of partial trips in June per the Red Arrow Grievance whether PBS passes or not.
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Old 03-01-2010 | 06:17 PM
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This all makes sense, we are operating -200's out of MEM and the 9E -200's are showing up in the ATL system...
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Old 03-01-2010 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Intl Jumper
This all makes sense, we are operating -200's out of MEM and the 9E -200's are showing up in the ATL system...


The shuffle is happening everywhere, in MSP it used to be just Compass, Mesaba, and Pinnacle. Now we have Compass, Mesaba, Pinnacle, Comair, Freedom, Skywest, and Chautauqua all flying for Big Daddy D.
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Old 03-02-2010 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxcackel
SH told us about this in recurrent recently. Also no new growth to take advantage of the PBS system for a couple of years when some of the other regional contracts come up for bid. So that will mean downgrades due to loss of some more of our Delta planes in August. He also said that we get most of the open time pick up, swap and dropping of partial trips in June per the Red Arrow Grievance whether PBS passes or not.

What's this about more aircraft loss in August?
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