I honestly wish that people from other airlines would mind their own house before they worry about skywest. We've voted down union after union here and the majority are happy with that. Why do you continue to push the issue?

 

Brasalias make up about 16% of the 300 airplane fleet. We only have 447 pilots qualified on the fleet and I have never seen animosity between the different fleets of pilots.

 

For all intents and purposes, both of us have the same CEO, CFO, BOD, and shareholders. The issue keeps coming up because your pilot group being non-union does not help.

I stand corrected. I guess that answers the reason why the vote that pit BRO vs CRJ passed by about 70%. I've talked to many friends that work there and I've read it here, the animosity of your MANAGEMENT putting pilots against pilots seems to exist, anecdotally at least.

 

We voted the package down, that was a huge hurdle for this pilot group. And if you guys want us to become union then you'd be smarter to act cordially than play high schoolesque games like name calling and intimidation. Many of us want a union for this pilot group and right now it seems like ALPA is the only game in town.

The success of our (3) pilot group depends on cohesiveness and unity so why are XJT guys still name-calling and bashing on SkyWest? All of us know that fostering this animosity only benefits management and the non-union guys here. There are a ton of guys on the fence about ALPA and right now, many posters on APC aren't really helping the cause.

 

ALPA isn't tremendously popular at ASA. Many of our pilots would much rather have an in house union, especially one that encompasses ASA+XJET and SkyWest. Some pilots here are even taking steps to make that a reality.

 

Most of the ALPA guys at SkyWest would vote for an in house union over SAPA and many of the guys on the fence about ALPA would definitely vote for an in house. If my logic serves me correctly, I think an in house would have a much better chance of passing than ALPA, but right now I'm not sure ALPA would be voted down either.

 

Talking about merging all three groups will be the center piece of any new attempt by alpa to try and hijack skywest. The majority of skywest pilots are very much against this proposion. This is why another alpa attempt will fail.

I just don't understand why some of you think now all of a sudden a drive at skywest would work when the last one only got 35%. Tons of pro-union guys have left, and if you think the vocal spoiled 34XXX or 35XXX numbers or the clowns from chicago are the majority you're fooling yourself. Even with the new unenthical voting rules the new turnout will still have alpa voted down. Just look at the pay proposal, it had more support from the pilots than alpa does. I know many people that were against alpa but voted no anyway but I don't anyone that was for alpa that voted for this pay package. Of course there has to be a drive for there to be a vote and a handfull of people who call themselves the "organizing comitee" not supported by alpa doesn't make it so.

I don't understand why all the people who whine about how bad skywest is just don't leave. ASA, Eagle and a bunch of other regionals are hiring. Why don't you guys go there? You wouldn't lose much seniorty since most are junior guys on reserve anyway. You all knew skywest wasn't union when you came here, so why did you even apply?

 

Slap, are you in SkyWest management? An IP or chief pilot maybe? Seriously. I'd like to gauge where your anti union and anti employee rhetoric comes from. Because you sure seem to lack respect for your fellow SkyWest employees.

 

Slap,

I voted for ALPA. I also voted for this pay package. I didn't think the package was good at all. It wasn't even ok. I was going to vote no, but my plan was YES/YES. Yes to this pay package, then yes to the alpa drive. Might as well start from a higher place to begin negotiations. This is my first airline. I knew SkyWest wasn't union. That was no factor at all. They were the only regional with a base in the city I live in. Leave to another regional? Why? It doesn't kill me that we aren't unionized, but I would like it to be. The new ntsb rules aren't unethical. They are the standard way that every type of election in the United States is held. If you are wondering why people want a union, ask yourself one question: Does management have your best interests at heart? If you can honestly answer that question, YES, than we don't need a union. If you answer that question yes, than you are also severely delusional.

Slap, you suggested that those of us that want a union, should go to a union carrier. My question to you is if we vote in a union, are you going to follow your advice and go to another non-union carrier? I mean, Ameriflight is hiring.

 

Slap,

There are a lot of 16XXX to 23XXX Captains that are pretty fed up right now. Besides the lifer contingent (which still has its fair share of union guys) many of us are dissatisfied as we've watched our QOL degraded at a pretty good pace over the last few years. From paying for things we didn't used to, to political sounding rhetoric from the top, I just feel like I work for a different company than I did 3 years ago. I'm a mid seniority FO and have a decent schedule, but I don't feel we have the respect from the current management team that we did when Jerry was really behind the wheel.

Say what you will, but there is a stronger pro-union sentiment than there was back in 2007 and with the voting rules changed and our QOL not getting any better, I don't think its that inconceivable that the next union vote will be much closer than the last.