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03-06-2016 | 06:00 PM

#451

airflight999

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Originally Posted by pete2800

450 of those 500 Horizon guys are lifers. Just saying.

I think a large percentage at every regional has its share of lifers and unhireables.

03-07-2016 | 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Packrat

You obviously don't know how Flight Pay Loss works. You only get paid for the amount of flying you lose off your line. If you do ALPA work for a week but only lose 4 days of flying you only get paid for those 4 days, not the entire week.

Whew. Thanks for clearing that up.

Hey when your working a salary job and you stay late one night, you might not get paid more.

03-07-2016 | 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by seafeye

Whew. Thanks for clearing that up.

Hey when your working a salary job and you stay late one night, you might not get paid more.

we don't work a salaried job.

03-07-2016 | 08:14 AM

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Your gonna tell me that the MEC from Eagle couldn't have picked up the phone to call the other MEC's and say "what do you think of this..."

The RLA is holding back them talking to each other? I think not.
The only thing holding them back is lack of national leadership.

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Originally Posted by CATIII

they aren't ONE union and the must represent THEIR pilots interests only and put them ahead of the other carriers.. That is how it works and it's dysfunctional as hell, but it is what we're straddled with under the RLA. There is no national pilots' union, we can't strike the way other unions in non-transporation fields can, and we have no muscle in DC like the larger and more traditional unions.

Lets say we went to a National Union.

The first time said National Pilot Union tells a pilot group what they can and can't do then all hell would break loose.

Then we'd be right back where we started, with much less cohesion and unity that we have currently, that is, if we have any at all.

03-07-2016 | 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 272922

A letter from ALPA advised the American Eagle MEC to "not Comair" Eagle. That is a direct quote. To me, that is ALPA getting directly involved in MEC negotiations at the regional level.

03-07-2016 | 08:37 AM

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A letter from ALPA advised the American Eagle MEC to "not Comair" Eagle. That is a direct quote. To me, that is ALPA getting directly involved in MEC negotiations at the regional level.

All the while giving advice to PDT and PSA. I don't hate ALPA, but it is complicit in perpetuating the misery of its membership at regional carriers.

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03-07-2016 | 08:42 AM

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A letter from ALPA advised the American Eagle MEC to "not Comair" Eagle. That is a direct quote. To me, that is ALPA getting directly involved in MEC negotiations at the regional level.

There's a very big difference between National having the power to tell an MEC what to do, vs writing a letter.

03-07-2016 | 12:41 PM

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The day Republic went into bankruptcy, due to lack of pilots, Skywest increased FO pay by $22/hour. Many regionals now compensate new hires over $40k/year.

03-07-2016 | 12:44 PM

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The day Republic went into bankruptcy, due to lack of pilots, Skywest increased FO pay by $22/hour. Many regionals now compensate new hires over $40k/year.

So they pay $52/hour now?

03-07-2016 | 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by atpcliff

The day Republic went into bankruptcy, due to lack of pilots, Skywest increased FO pay by $22/hour. Many regionals now compensate new hires over $40k/year.

wait what is the new Skywest starting pay? wasn't it 32/hr before? is it now over 50?