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From: CL65
Is that what your nanny always said?
Grown ups. Hah! 24 years. I have seen your ATP Puppy Mill type come and go. Sooner or later PSA will hit a wall. It may be some years down the road, but it will happen. The business model fails if you actually move anywhere in a timely manner without stagnation. It is the life cycle of a regional. How many times has PSA ebbed and flowed? Let's see how you do when you are down on the ground like most of Envoys pilots are right now. Maybe you can run home and live with momma again.
Grown ups. Hah! 24 years. I have seen your ATP Puppy Mill type come and go. Sooner or later PSA will hit a wall. It may be some years down the road, but it will happen. The business model fails if you actually move anywhere in a timely manner without stagnation. It is the life cycle of a regional. How many times has PSA ebbed and flowed? Let's see how you do when you are down on the ground like most of Envoys pilots are right now. Maybe you can run home and live with momma again.
And yes, regionals do ebb and flow. That is why it is important to choose the company that you work for very carefully. The goal is to get time in the left seat so you can get out. Pick a company that will do that with the best quality of life. If you chose wrong and are in a company that stagnates, get the heck out as quickly as possible and get to a place where you can better your career.
I am not sure that you understand stagnation. Stagnation is the death of a regional. That is why the regionals wanted a 12/4 pay scale and put flows/ssp's in place. They don't want people stuck in the right seat for 8 years. The biggest marketing tool that they have is quick upgrades and quick movement to a regional. If they can do that, then they can keep a constant stream of low cost pilots moving through. Envoy stagnated and is dying.
Unlike you, however, I feel bad for the guys that are stuck at other companies in the right seat for 8 years, or on reserve for 3. I answer questions that they have as honestly as I can. I give them interview advice, and answer questions about training. I hope that they move forward and find something better. PSA is working on a plan to create an accelerated training program for people that are prior 121 and typed in the CRJ. It will allow them to get through training faster and get to the line where they can make more money. I was happy to hear this, and hope that it benefits guys that are stuck in dying companies.
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Well, I am in my 40's, have been in aviation for quite some time, have never stepped foot in an "ATP puppy mill", and I have not lived with momma since I was 17. I learned to fly the "old fashioned" way, and paid for every dollar of it with cash. Other than that, you hit the nail on the head. Good job.
And yes, regionals do ebb and flow. That is why it is important to choose the company that you work for very carefully. The goal is to get time in the left seat so you can get out. Pick a company that will do that with the best quality of life. If you chose wrong and are in a company that stagnates, get the heck out as quickly as possible and get to a place where you can better your career.
I am not sure that you understand stagnation. Stagnation is the death of a regional. That is why the regionals wanted a 12/4 pay scale and put flows/ssp's in place. They don't want people stuck in the right seat for 8 years. The biggest marketing tool that they have is quick upgrades and quick movement to a regional. If they can do that, then they can keep a constant stream of low cost pilots moving through. Envoy stagnated and is dying.
Unlike you, however, I feel bad for the guys that are stuck at other companies. I answer questions that they have as honestly as I can. I give them interview advice, and answer questions about training. I hope that they move forward and find something better. PSA is working on a plan to create an accelerated training program for people that are prior 121 and typed in the CRJ. It will allow them to get through training faster and get to the line where they can make more money. I was happy to hear this, and hope that it benefits guys that are stuck in dying companies.
And yes, regionals do ebb and flow. That is why it is important to choose the company that you work for very carefully. The goal is to get time in the left seat so you can get out. Pick a company that will do that with the best quality of life. If you chose wrong and are in a company that stagnates, get the heck out as quickly as possible and get to a place where you can better your career.
I am not sure that you understand stagnation. Stagnation is the death of a regional. That is why the regionals wanted a 12/4 pay scale and put flows/ssp's in place. They don't want people stuck in the right seat for 8 years. The biggest marketing tool that they have is quick upgrades and quick movement to a regional. If they can do that, then they can keep a constant stream of low cost pilots moving through. Envoy stagnated and is dying.
Unlike you, however, I feel bad for the guys that are stuck at other companies. I answer questions that they have as honestly as I can. I give them interview advice, and answer questions about training. I hope that they move forward and find something better. PSA is working on a plan to create an accelerated training program for people that are prior 121 and typed in the CRJ. It will allow them to get through training faster and get to the line where they can make more money. I was happy to hear this, and hope that it benefits guys that are stuck in dying companies.
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Actually I started the day picking on myself(Envoy) for the ridiculous recruitment video they made. Someone came into the thread and posted PSAs videos, which ticked off some (I am guessing other Envoy guy). He spit a little, and dun dun duhhhhhhhh!!! CLT Guy to the rescue!! He made it ten times worse and then I decided to antagonize the situation. After all, if you idiots want to derail a thread about envoy being wrong with the history of how you hosed the industry, hey why not! That got me interested in the PSA thread again, in which I posted here as well.
So basically, Great Job CLT_Guy! You are a bright one. Maybe it is you that should grab a juice box and sit in the corner....or maybe a binky.
So basically, Great Job CLT_Guy! You are a bright one. Maybe it is you that should grab a juice box and sit in the corner....or maybe a binky.
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