Anything New At AWAC?
01-22-2015, 05:48 PM
#101
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Originally Posted by prex8390
might start s--- storm but whats your take on signing a contract beyond 2015 with any carrier. someone i was interviewing with said he heard a rumor they may start talks up with delta again, but this wasnt confirmed and jonathon said later the ended talks with delta which everyone already knows.
That being said, management has been dancing about on the contract extension announcement ever since they had to recant on the Delta deal.
The last time I was in a reliable gossip loop...the only thing I heard was that AA got really interested in adding years to the contract once Delta and AWAC were close to signing a deal.
01-22-2015, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FODhopper
It is very unlikely AWAC stops flying at the end of this year and the extension to 2017 is also likely to continue....AWAC doesn't want to die and AA doesn't have another carrier it can just slot-in to cover 71 a/c worth of flying.
That being said, management has been dancing about on the contract extension announcement ever since they had to recant on the Delta deal.
The last time I was in a reliable gossip loop...the only thing I heard was that AA got really interested in adding years to the contract once Delta and AWAC were close to signing a deal.
That being said, management has been dancing about on the contract extension announcement ever since they had to recant on the Delta deal.
The last time I was in a reliable gossip loop...the only thing I heard was that AA got really interested in adding years to the contract once Delta and AWAC were close to signing a deal.
He did say they are talking to them and may extend it for longer.
They said if AWAC went away they would just expand another regionals lift.
01-22-2015, 09:09 PM
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Does not sound good.. The Only hope you would have had on the aa side would have been for eny to have voted no..all the e175 crj900 are all taken due to scope and other regionals are picking up the emb145 routes not much left...
01-22-2015, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonwolf
Awac is very annoying in the way handles certain items. We have a company q&a, all the answers are about as vague as it gets. do we have a contract past 2015? AWACS answer- Awac has a proud 50 year history of being a top tier regional, and we intend to fly another 50 years as a leader in the industry.
Does the new AA paint mean a contract extention? AWACS answer- we cannot confirm that this means an extention.
Hiring is steady, but it would seem like it's for attrition mostly on the f/o side. As a ****ed off employee I wouldn't believe anything management says.
Does the new AA paint mean a contract extention? AWACS answer- we cannot confirm that this means an extention.
Hiring is steady, but it would seem like it's for attrition mostly on the f/o side. As a ****ed off employee I wouldn't believe anything management says.
Regardless of whether this place shuts down or not this is a good place to be unless you could care less about your QOL, Pay, Insurance and other benefits.
There is definite movement for sure and every month im hearing of more CAs leaving as well as FOs. There hasn't been a month yet on the Vacancy Bid Awards I havent gone up (not counting the total number on the list growing).
Timing is everything and who knows what it would mean for someone hired today, but as a 1.5 yr guy I have moved up a hell of a lot more than I ever would have imagined.
01-23-2015, 03:39 AM
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In the recent crews news Scott Kirby stated AWAC's contract ends in 2015 but they can extend for one year.
He did say they are talking to them and may extend it for longer.
They said if AWAC went away they would just expand another regionals lift.[/QUOTE]
That's funny because that guy is as informed about AWAC as any bum on the street! He sells dreams to dreamers using stardust and will charge handsomely for it!
He did say they are talking to them and may extend it for longer.
They said if AWAC went away they would just expand another regionals lift.[/QUOTE]
That's funny because that guy is as informed about AWAC as any bum on the street! He sells dreams to dreamers using stardust and will charge handsomely for it!
01-23-2015, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
In the recent crews news Scott Kirby stated AWAC's contract ends in 2015 but they can extend for one year.
He did say they are talking to them and may extend it for longer.
They said if AWAC went away they would just expand another regionals lift.
He did say they are talking to them and may extend it for longer.
They said if AWAC went away they would just expand another regionals lift.
But who the hell knows at this point.
01-23-2015, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnLocke
I just don't see any airline parting ways with 71 fully staffed planes in this climate. Every carrier wants as much feed as they can get their hands on.
On one city pair I'm familiar with, there were 14 flights a day between US and AA, all 50 seaters pre-merger. There's now 7, and they are all 70 seaters.
Envoy assumed they couldn't be replaced too.
01-23-2015, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
Isn't Envoy down 1000 pilots from their peak pre-merger?
On one city pair I'm familiar with, there were 14 flights a day between US and AA, all 50 seaters pre-merger. There's now 7, and they are all 70 seaters.
Envoy assumed they couldn't be replaced too.
On one city pair I'm familiar with, there were 14 flights a day between US and AA, all 50 seaters pre-merger. There's now 7, and they are all 70 seaters.
Envoy assumed they couldn't be replaced too.
Originally Posted by ChipChelios
That's funny because that guy is as informed about AWAC as any bum on the street! He sells dreams to dreamers using stardust and will charge handsomely for it!
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