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02-26-2007 | 04:16 PM

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CL65driver

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I'll agree with you, POPA. That stupid yoke in the ERJ is a real POS!

02-26-2007 | 04:23 PM

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Groove, I'll be the first to admit that the ERJ has a major problem with it's landing structural weight. But if you've got a creative crew, you can usually find a way around it.

But at the end of the day, they both suck monkey butt.

Well thats why you need to have an XR

02-26-2007 | 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by POPA

As somebody who's only flown the ERJ, I'm going to go ahead and say I prefer the CRJ. Why? It has a real yoke! There's a reason that 99% (no, I'm not sure that's the actual number) of the world's airlines don't have a freakin' ram's-horn.

I actually find the ram horns to be fairly comfortable to fly with. A little weird at first but after a few hundred hours I don't know if i could go back to a normal yoke.

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Originally Posted by POPA

As far as ERJs being underpowered, I certainly won't say they're comparable to a 777. However, it's really easy to overspeed an LR when you're at cruise power, at any altitude.

Tell me that again when you're in the mid to high 20s, heavy and its ISA +10. In the teens and 30s I will agree with you, better get out of the detent.

02-26-2007 | 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy

I actually find the ram horns to be fairly comfortable to fly with. A little weird at first but after a few hundred hours I don't know if i could go back to a normal yoke.

After a few hundred hours with the motorcycle grips, I KNOW I could go back to a normal yoke - or even better, a stick

02-26-2007 | 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CL65driver

I'll agree with you, POPA. That stupid yoke in the ERJ is a real POS!

I like it for TO and cliimb. Suck balls on landing, especially in a crosswind.

02-26-2007 | 08:23 PM

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Nightsky

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Ditto the ERJ yoke comments. I cannot stand it!

02-27-2007 | 09:33 AM

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I like having jet performance in the EMB above FL200. We can get 1300+ fpm through FL300 at a moderately heavy weight.

The CRJ is slightly quieter and slightly quieter in the back though. I prefer the EMB

02-27-2007 | 09:39 AM

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Sissy Horns

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Ditto the ERJ yoke comments. I cannot stand it!

The Hawker 800 had the same "sissy horn" yoke as we called it... I never had a problem with it.

Someone seroiusly needs to hang little pon-poms off it like they did on their bike when they were a little girl... that would be way classy!

02-27-2007 | 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by groovinaviator

thats kinda funny

02-27-2007 | 10:12 AM

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The CRJ-200 sucks. IMHO.

But the cockpit is reasonably spacious for such a small airplane. Also, I agree that it seems like fairly sturdy construction.

I think the CRJ-700 is a far nicer airplane and they could have made it even better, but that would have cost more money.

What I don't like about the CRJ-200:

-Feels unstable to me (but not to everyone else I guess...)
-Dead zone at the yoke-centered position
-Underpowered
-Not initially designed for pax service - things break more often than they should

What I like:
-Not bad cockpit space, especially room for the pilot case
-Very good brakes! (RWY 35 or 26 in PHL anyone?)
-Can go fast. Sometimes.
-It's an airplane and I get paid to fly it!!