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Old 02-27-2007 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
Yep, but having a wide set of handle bars with a low pivot point hitting your knee vs. a narrow conventional yoke that you can easily get full deflection if necessary is not "an airplane is an aiplane thing".
I have little legs, haha nah I know what your saying have to keep your knees pretty much tucked around the control column, kinda hard to manipulate rudders and yoke at the same time
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Old 02-27-2007 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
Is that what was causing all that noise?

Seriously, it wouldn't go any faster. Maybe it had tired engines.

It must have been really tired. 45,000lbs in the LR today and we would have sped right past .78 if we kept the thrust levers in the detent. If you are at XJ, do you guys have any EPs?
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Old 02-27-2007 | 08:16 PM
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I usually stay out of the "Whose shiny regional jet is better" argument, but me and the lil' lady have been drinking all day and I'm bored. I launched my plastic death tube (EMB-145LR) out of LGA one day with a Comair CRJ right in front of me going to the same place. After we outclimbed it, we beat it and landed a few minutes before said CRJ. Everything I've ever had to deadhead on tells me the ERJ is much more comfortable. So that leads me to believe that I'd rather ride in a ERJ than a CRJ anyday. I'd also rather fly a ERJ than a CRJ. But I've never flown a CRJ because I still have my dignity....

Edit - I'm removing the comment about Comair taxiing slow in CVG. Block or better...I'm going to start taxiing at the speed of nothing. It would be nice if they turned their strobes off though....
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Old 02-28-2007 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
and ram horns or not, a x-wind landing is a x-wind landing. An airplane is an airplane guys come on now...............
Very true. But you gotta admit, after spending 2000 hours with a yoke, coming in to do an x-wind with the rams horns is a bit tricky the first few times. All in all, I like landing the ERJ in x-winds more than the CRJ now. It just grows on ya.

.... BTW, had an XR from IAH-CLT the other day. Climbed to 370 to get around some buildups and the darn thing would over speed every time in the CRZ setting. 47 on board too. Gotta love the XR.
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Old 02-28-2007 | 08:46 AM
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The E145 (non-XR) will outclimb a CRJ-200 at altitude but my experience on the jumpseat of the 145 and flying the CRJ says the taco rocket ain't faster than a CRJ once you get it on the step in cruise.

As a passenger I prefer the CRJ because of overhead bins on both sides (easier to get a PNT bag in), 2x2 seating and it is a bit quieter. I think I'm an exception though because I hate the single-seat side of the EMBs because of how the fuselage rolls under, taking away legroom. As a jumpseater I prefer the CRJ because it has a bigger cockpit than the ERJ, but its only marginally better. I'm thankful the CRJ-200 doesn't have XR range, because I couldn't handle 4 hour segments in such a small cockpit or cabin. The 145 does land like a real airplane though, instead of the dive-bomb approach in the CR2.

They are both cheap jets that are fairly reliable means of hauling ~50 back and forth. One is not any better than the other...
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Old 02-28-2007 | 08:59 AM
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i like the CRJ better. Just a gut feeling, that's why (I know it's silly) I won't go to EXJ to fly the needle jet.
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Old 02-28-2007 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
To those of you who have ACTUALLY flown both, which do you like better out of the Erj and Crj?
CRJ.

Why? Cockpit noise level, bag storage, seat ergonmoics, ceiling height, fire handle placement (I developed a habit of hanging on to the emergency exit foot step in the CRJ - I live in fear of grabing the ERJ fire handle and creating a single engine landing opportunity), yoke, yaw damper, auto pilot, engine starting procedure, anti ice system, climb detent (-700), passenger O2 mask emergency deployment knob location, avionics - almost everything about the avionics, FMS, MFD, speed bugs, method of selecting de-rated takeoff power, TCAS display, VNAV display, CAS display, PTT button, nav/com radios; thrust reversers, foot rest, chart holder, overhead map light (CRJ-700), jumpseat, overhead bin size, cabin aisle headroom (and I'm short), pax seat comfort (neither are good, but CRJ is better), under seat foot/bag room, noise level, cabin seat headroom and APU noise level.

The ERJ seems to climb much better, but cruise much slower (ERJ Mmo .78 vs CRJ Mmo .85) on the other hand I was climbing at 290 kts in the CRJ, vs 240 to .56 in the ERJ. Also the CRJ-200 has a MTOW of 53000, while the ERJ-145(LR) has a MTOW of only 48,501.

What I do prefer about the ERJ is the closet behind the cockpit for crew bags, the bigger-than-a-phone-booth lav, takeoff detent, a/c packs (except the noise), and the BOS base.

That's with 600 CRJ hours and 50 ERJ hours, ask me again in 6 months and we'll see if the ERJ has grown on me.
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Old 02-28-2007 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by robthree
CRJ...
engine starting procedure
Exactly which part of the ERJ's starting procedure gives you trouble?
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Old 02-28-2007 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by POPA
Exactly which part of the ERJ's starting procedure gives you trouble?
Doesn't give me any trouble... its the Captain's job.

I don't like the starter being a knob with a spring loaded plastic guard. I don't like the TLs having to be in the idle position with no idle detent, or better yet a shutoff detent.

I did like a start pushbutton, and a stop pushbutton. I liked TLs that you advanced out of the shutoff position to introduce fuel. Or returned to shutoff to stop fuel.

Nothing wrong with the ERJs staring procedure. I just liked the CRJs better.
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Old 02-28-2007 | 11:12 AM
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Just face it - Those crazy Canadians and their Molson logic make a far superior aircraft
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