Currently how far out are the class dates?
#61
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Joined APC: Dec 2021
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Training timeline
I'm new here - apologies for any etiquette errors. I recently interviewed with RPA. At the presentation HR showed us a training timeline, but it was up only briefly and I missed a few points.
Seems like there are spots open in January classes, so an early start is possible. What's unclear is how the rest of the timeline runs, and how long it is end to end.
What I understand is:
Indoc - 11 days, IND
ETHOS - 2 weeks, at home
Systems, in person session - 1 week, IND
EFPT - 1 week, IND
SIMS - Various FlightSafety locations. Timeline they showed was 2 segments of 2 days each. This seems too short.
IOE - 25 hours - guessing this is done over a 3-4 day trip
Does the sequence above sound correct? Are the SIMS sessions really that quick? Based on the above, seems like the whole thing takes between 7 and 9 weeks, which includes IOE. But I remember HR person saying they are running 95 days. Am I missing something? Only thing I can think of is that there could be breaks in between some of the segments, either to give people home time or rest, or because of resource shortages (simulator, instructor, LCA, etc.)
I'm mainly interested so that I can give my family a good sense of how long I'll be away, whether I'll be home for some breaks and to understand whether it's realistic to expect to be starting reserve by April or May.
Seems like there are spots open in January classes, so an early start is possible. What's unclear is how the rest of the timeline runs, and how long it is end to end.
What I understand is:
Indoc - 11 days, IND
ETHOS - 2 weeks, at home
Systems, in person session - 1 week, IND
EFPT - 1 week, IND
SIMS - Various FlightSafety locations. Timeline they showed was 2 segments of 2 days each. This seems too short.
IOE - 25 hours - guessing this is done over a 3-4 day trip
Does the sequence above sound correct? Are the SIMS sessions really that quick? Based on the above, seems like the whole thing takes between 7 and 9 weeks, which includes IOE. But I remember HR person saying they are running 95 days. Am I missing something? Only thing I can think of is that there could be breaks in between some of the segments, either to give people home time or rest, or because of resource shortages (simulator, instructor, LCA, etc.)
I'm mainly interested so that I can give my family a good sense of how long I'll be away, whether I'll be home for some breaks and to understand whether it's realistic to expect to be starting reserve by April or May.
#63
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Position: ERJ-170
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I'm new here - apologies for any etiquette errors. I recently interviewed with RPA. At the presentation HR showed us a training timeline, but it was up only briefly and I missed a few points.
Seems like there are spots open in January classes, so an early start is possible. What's unclear is how the rest of the timeline runs, and how long it is end to end.
What I understand is:
Indoc - 11 days, IND
ETHOS - 2 weeks, at home
Systems, in person session - 1 week, IND
EFPT - 1 week, IND
SIMS - Various FlightSafety locations. Timeline they showed was 2 segments of 2 days each. This seems too short.
IOE - 25 hours - guessing this is done over a 3-4 day trip
Does the sequence above sound correct? Are the SIMS sessions really that quick? Based on the above, seems like the whole thing takes between 7 and 9 weeks, which includes IOE. But I remember HR person saying they are running 95 days. Am I missing something? Only thing I can think of is that there could be breaks in between some of the segments, either to give people home time or rest, or because of resource shortages (simulator, instructor, LCA, etc.)
I'm mainly interested so that I can give my family a good sense of how long I'll be away, whether I'll be home for some breaks and to understand whether it's realistic to expect to be starting reserve by April or May.
Seems like there are spots open in January classes, so an early start is possible. What's unclear is how the rest of the timeline runs, and how long it is end to end.
What I understand is:
Indoc - 11 days, IND
ETHOS - 2 weeks, at home
Systems, in person session - 1 week, IND
EFPT - 1 week, IND
SIMS - Various FlightSafety locations. Timeline they showed was 2 segments of 2 days each. This seems too short.
IOE - 25 hours - guessing this is done over a 3-4 day trip
Does the sequence above sound correct? Are the SIMS sessions really that quick? Based on the above, seems like the whole thing takes between 7 and 9 weeks, which includes IOE. But I remember HR person saying they are running 95 days. Am I missing something? Only thing I can think of is that there could be breaks in between some of the segments, either to give people home time or rest, or because of resource shortages (simulator, instructor, LCA, etc.)
I'm mainly interested so that I can give my family a good sense of how long I'll be away, whether I'll be home for some breaks and to understand whether it's realistic to expect to be starting reserve by April or May.
#64
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2020
Posts: 556
I'm new here - apologies for any etiquette errors. I recently interviewed with RPA. At the presentation HR showed us a training timeline, but it was up only briefly and I missed a few points.
Seems like there are spots open in January classes, so an early start is possible. What's unclear is how the rest of the timeline runs, and how long it is end to end.
What I understand is:
Indoc - 11 days, IND
ETHOS - 2 weeks, at home
Systems, in person session - 1 week, IND
EFPT - 1 week, IND
SIMS - Various FlightSafety locations. Timeline they showed was 2 segments of 2 days each. This seems too short.
IOE - 25 hours - guessing this is done over a 3-4 day trip
Does the sequence above sound correct? Are the SIMS sessions really that quick? Based on the above, seems like the whole thing takes between 7 and 9 weeks, which includes IOE. But I remember HR person saying they are running 95 days. Am I missing something? Only thing I can think of is that there could be breaks in between some of the segments, either to give people home time or rest, or because of resource shortages (simulator, instructor, LCA, etc.)
I'm mainly interested so that I can give my family a good sense of how long I'll be away, whether I'll be home for some breaks and to understand whether it's realistic to expect to be starting reserve by April or May.
Seems like there are spots open in January classes, so an early start is possible. What's unclear is how the rest of the timeline runs, and how long it is end to end.
What I understand is:
Indoc - 11 days, IND
ETHOS - 2 weeks, at home
Systems, in person session - 1 week, IND
EFPT - 1 week, IND
SIMS - Various FlightSafety locations. Timeline they showed was 2 segments of 2 days each. This seems too short.
IOE - 25 hours - guessing this is done over a 3-4 day trip
Does the sequence above sound correct? Are the SIMS sessions really that quick? Based on the above, seems like the whole thing takes between 7 and 9 weeks, which includes IOE. But I remember HR person saying they are running 95 days. Am I missing something? Only thing I can think of is that there could be breaks in between some of the segments, either to give people home time or rest, or because of resource shortages (simulator, instructor, LCA, etc.)
I'm mainly interested so that I can give my family a good sense of how long I'll be away, whether I'll be home for some breaks and to understand whether it's realistic to expect to be starting reserve by April or May.
There are only 5 FMTs, but a total of 10 full motion sim sessions - including your maneuvers validation, SPOT training, & LOE.
As of a few weeks ago, there was about a month wait between your LOE check ride and the beginning of IOE.
#65
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: F/O
Posts: 186
As far as IOE goes, 25 hours is the bare minimum but they’ll usually give you two trips totaling somewhere around 30-35 hours. They do this to give some extra padding in case a flight cancels during the pairing or you wind up needing a little more time before your line check, this saves you from having to wait a long span of time again for another check airman to become available.
#66
95 days is viewed as the max for what the training department wants. Most people that I’ve spoke to have been making it through in 70ish days, give or take a few. A friend of mine finished in 65 days - but that was an August Indoc date, so your mileage may vary.
There are only 5 FMTs, but a total of 10 full motion sim sessions - including your maneuvers validation, SPOT training, & LOE.
As of a few weeks ago, there was about a month wait between your LOE check ride and the beginning of IOE.
There are only 5 FMTs, but a total of 10 full motion sim sessions - including your maneuvers validation, SPOT training, & LOE.
As of a few weeks ago, there was about a month wait between your LOE check ride and the beginning of IOE.
#69
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Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 6
I think the 95 days is about right. There's definitely more than 4 sim sessions. There are breaks mandated by contract, (can't work more than 6 days in a row and need two days off each break if memory serves). There may also be slightly longer breaks between sims for scheduling purposes. I've heard, strictly rumor, that there may be a break between check ride and IOE as the schedule for this is pretty full and we're short a few CKA's. It's been mentioned in other RAH threads but someone who seems "in the know" I'll be in the Training center next week, should get my fill of fresh rumors! LOL
#70
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Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 6
95 days is viewed as the max for what the training department wants. Most people that I’ve spoke to have been making it through in 70ish days, give or take a few. A friend of mine finished in 65 days - but that was an August Indoc date, so your mileage may vary.
There are only 5 FMTs, but a total of 10 full motion sim sessions - including your maneuvers validation, SPOT training, & LOE.
As of a few weeks ago, there was about a month wait between your LOE check ride and the beginning of IOE.
There are only 5 FMTs, but a total of 10 full motion sim sessions - including your maneuvers validation, SPOT training, & LOE.
As of a few weeks ago, there was about a month wait between your LOE check ride and the beginning of IOE.
Thank you - this helps set my expectations. I realize there's a good deal of variability.
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