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04-12-2013 | 05:22 PM

#341

astec

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Originally Posted by Emb170man

They just had a new hire class of 10-12 (depends on who you hear it from) 100% no show for the first day of Q class. They are desperate for new hires but luckily most people out there aren't stupid enough to come into our mess. Stay FAR away from this Sh!tshow of an operation!

That is awesome!

04-27-2013 | 12:37 PM

#342

Cubdriver

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What's a typical washout rate for new hires getting a Q type? And versus the E series? A weak training department usually ends in high washout rates. TransStates uses FlightSafety as well, and they have lots of washouts.

04-28-2013 | 06:43 AM

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thump

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Originally Posted by Cubdriver

The Q is our own training dept. E170 stuff is FSI

Things that make you go hmmmm........

BTW, no problems filling 170 classes, but thankfully people know that the Q is a ****show and the last bunch of FOs that go to the Q are going to be junior FOREVER!

04-28-2013 | 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by thump

the last bunch of FOs that go to the Q are going to be junior FOREVER!

Anybody know where they are at now? I think about only half of the Q's have arrived so far?

04-28-2013 | 08:30 AM

#345

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Originally Posted by thump

...Things that make you go hmmmm........

Specifics?

I get the feeling the Q is a raw deal right now.

04-28-2013 | 09:33 AM

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flyingreasemnky

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Originally Posted by Karma

Anybody know where they are at now? I think about only half of the Q's have arrived so far?

Last I heard, there were 22 on property. They just put out another vacancy for Q captains which should be the last one for a while unless they have to keep up with having Captains flying right seat. (Apparently, most of the PIT pairings being flown are Captain on Captain.)

04-28-2013 | 01:44 PM

#347

taf158

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Any idea around how many FOs are still needed until the Q is properly staffed?

04-28-2013 | 03:31 PM

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flyingreasemnky

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Any idea around how many FOs are still needed until the Q is properly staffed?

No idea what the real number is but I'm going to guess somewhere around 100-200 more because they are having so many staffing issues with the ones on property.

04-29-2013 | 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Karma

Anybody know where they are at now? I think about only half of the Q's have arrived so far?

146 Q400 CAs showing awarded, with the company line being that it's mostly staffed in terms of upgrades. 86 Q400 FOs showing as having bases awarded.

If we are shooting for 150 CA and 150 FOs, there is still another 65 FOs to hire. That said, there could be some new hire Q400 FOs that I'm not seeing because they don't have a base assigned yet.

Anyone coming to the Q400 risks being junior and stuck on the Q400 for a VERY long time. The current Q400 FOs are the most junior group in the system. The senior Q400 FOs will be the last to upgrade, meaning a VERY long wait for new hire Q400 drivers on the bottom of the Q400 pile.