alfaromeo seemed to be justifying the 42% cut by asserting that our C2K rates were too much. What did he call it... "the richest labor contract in history"? I was just adding some perspective to show that the 42% cut was not justified.

I think if you look at history, you will see that the buying power of a major airline pilot has been relatively consistent from the 1960's all the way through the 1990's. Sure, there have been some ups and downs and isolated examples, but nothing like what we saw in the past decade. Deregulation happened about 30 years ago, right? The massive decrease in the value of our profession didn't happen until over 20 years into deregulation. I really don't think you can blame it on that.

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"Labor History?"

Please splain me that

Nope. Not now, not ever. There are far better ways to address this than a massive, earth shattering windfall for the uber-senior.

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Carl;

To be fair, I think the poster asked about the secretaries' pay being MD88 FO or better.

Administrators are way more important than secretaries, they administer stuff and check for hall passes.

Secretaries don't type, do shorthand or take meeting minutes anymore, they just mess up your calendar in outlook so they shouldn't make as much as MD88FO's.

And I think that statement is absolutely false. The decrease started as soon as the ink was dry on Pub.L. 95-504. As new carriers sprang up, wages of the old carriers started dropping. That trend continues to this day, though I think it is likely bottoming out.

Again, I think the facts will prove you are wrong.

Nobody you or I could afford

Yup this^^^^^^^^

Without going back and doing a lot of research, I can't say for sure. But I do know that our profession has never seen the kind of massive cuts that we saw in the past decade. Maybe, you could graph the buying power of this profession over the past 50 years and show a slightly declining line after deregulation. But then that line falls off a cliff about 7 years ago! Completely unprecedented and definitely not part of a "trend" that results from deregulation.

In other words, I don't think you can use our pay trends since deregulation as justification for the 42% "emergency" pay cut just prior to and during BK and then the lack of any meaningful restoration since exiting BK several years ago.

Again ACL.. this is classic ALPA scare tactics. I don't know if this path is right.. I DO know that the one we are on has no competition, and takes no questions. They get asked now, and all of a sudden the defense of the status quo becomes a game of chicken. the ALPA leader makes more than 3 times any captain on this property. THAT is disgusting.. and guess what.. there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that it will change from within. I haven't sent in a card... yet. I am waiting for more information. It won't take much. Where is mr prater in all this anyway? Wiping caviar from the latest state dinner off of his tux?

Well, bankruptcy will do that....