1 no show, 15 in class.

That's ridiculous.
Frontier is a great place to work.
The pay needs to get straightened out and it will. It's going to take time and a unified effort from the pilot group. Nothing more, nothing less, that's the same **** that's been going since the beginning of the airline industry.

Based on what was posted above you need to eliminate DAL and SWA from your job search also, they're dealing with the same pay issues.

Goes to show don't believe everything you hear.

They're not dealing with the same pay issues. Our rates are anywhere from 40-80% less than what their narrowbody pilots make not even counting profit sharing. First year FOs here make LESS than regional wages. I'm all for optimism but anything short of getting released into the 30 day cooling off period is going to accomplish nothing with Indigo. If we're lucky we might get released a couple years from now but based on recent history with the NMB that's most likely wishful thinking.

It will take a strike. Plain and simple.

In the mean time *****ing about first year pay anywhere is pointless. It's always been low the first year, everywhere.

Frontier WAS a great place to work. And MAYBE in the future it will be again. Our pay is at a minimum 40% less then our peers. Our schedules are horrible and our productivity has gone down the drain. Anyone looking to come here, we should be at the bottom of your list.

Get a grip man..are you kidding me?? Frontier is a great place to work, and then your next post mentions that we'll need a strike to fix what's broken?? That doesn't sound great at all. The DAL and SWA retirement and healthcare packages alone are worth thousands more per year than the crap we have, possibly tens of thousands. But keep drinking that "Frontier is great" KoolAid. Keep shutting one down exactly 120 seconds after you land, keep talking non-stop to passengers, keep carrying bags, and keep the faith man. Frontier rocks!! Puhhhhh-leeez
And btw...1st year pay at UAL is better than our year 4 FO.

UA 401K is our most valuable part of our contract IMO. 16% PRETAX gross gets payed by the airline into our account - not a match. So if I do NOTHING 16% per month goes in without a dime out of my pocket. Stretch that over career earning potential and the figure gets pretty big.

That is the environment that you are negotiating in and if you believe you deserve parity in the industry THAT is where the bar is set. When the MEC pickets in DEN I will be there - in unity.

But the class was supposed to be 20, interesting. Also how many of those 15 will be here in a year? Word is at least 6 or 7 per class are gone by second year peanuts

I was told by a guy in the Aug class that they had it set up for 16, and 1 didn't show.

I start next month, and the rumor is 24 in that class. We are being told to bring our signed training contracts day one.