Bottom of SWA or bottom of new American?
11-20-2013, 09:47 AM
#161
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Originally Posted by aa73
AA actually has many 757 Brazil flights that fly all night down but fly a day trip back. Recife, Salvador, Brasilia, and Asuncion. Leave around 2300 arrive 0800... Return leaves around 0900 and arrives around 1700. Pretty decent from what I'm told. Best of all, it's a 3 man operation on the flights down but the IRO deadheads back on the return.
That changes Jan 1, when business-or-better is required for Deep South (and other long flights).
11-20-2013, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by satpak77
Pan Am was also a sure bet back in the day. I believe that there is opportunity to be had whenever chaos and fear exists. For that, AA qualifies.
I do have a dog in this show, so I hope the new american thrives like never before. I am glad I went with the first and only carrier I interviewed with, the "what ifs" would have killed me by now.
11-20-2013, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
That's one of the VERY important points of the whole NB/domestic vs. WB comparisons going on here;
1) It may take a while to see that. As I mentioned, all the guys talking it up (especially at AA/UAL) with the amount of furloughs/stagnation WEREN'T born in that seat seniority.
2) For the guys that my be salivating over it now waiting to be hired, life events could change, domicile shifts, getting comfortable, whatever and the gleam in the eye of doing the WB/int'l may just wane/fall by the wayside.
1) It may take a while to see that. As I mentioned, all the guys talking it up (especially at AA/UAL) with the amount of furloughs/stagnation WEREN'T born in that seat seniority.
2) For the guys that my be salivating over it now waiting to be hired, life events could change, domicile shifts, getting comfortable, whatever and the gleam in the eye of doing the WB/int'l may just wane/fall by the wayside.
A guy could find the niche he enjoys.
11-20-2013, 07:40 PM
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11-26-2013, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Agent1
Comparing the two (at the bottom)... What do the seniority improvement look like at each? Not necessarily a race to upgrade, but more for improved QOL considerations?
11-26-2013, 09:12 AM
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Also don't forget that if hired at swa, you'll continue to be pushed to the bottom by AirTran pilots. How many are left to be integrated, several hundred? Ouch. Expect bottom of the seniority list for years. AA all the way, I say.
11-26-2013, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ghilis101
Also don't forget that if hired at swa, you'll continue to be pushed to the bottom by AirTran pilots. How many are left to be integrated, several hundred? Ouch. Expect bottom of the seniority list for years. AA all the way, I say.
11-26-2013, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bull
I think there are actually about 1400 left to transition.
I believe in basketball they would call that a 2,900 point switch.
11-26-2013, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ghilis101
Oh... Em.... Gee!!!! 1400!!! Ok so if you get hired now at swa, your seniority continues to go down by 1400. That's the exact opposite of AA, where your seniority would increase by at least 1500 in 3 years.
I believe in basketball they would call that a 2,900 point switch.
I believe in basketball they would call that a 2,900 point switch.
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