Exactly this ☝🏻

That’s a bingo

Seems like Y list could be a pain if you originate in TPA and end with an operating leg to MCO. Now your car is in TPA and you have to find a way back to get it.

Our VDA system in that example would start with a ground transportation leg from MCO-TPA in which the pilot could ride along on, leaving his car in MCO which makes the back end a lot easier.

Report time from callout varies wildly for VDA and a pilot could be called and then bypassed because Crew Scheduling determines it takes too long for the pilot to report.

agreed....

I think you’re misunderstanding the example. The pilot lives in TPA, his car is in TPA. He is based in MCO. A Y list would be for a trip that has its first operating leg from TPA, say a pilot busted out sick in TPA on an overnight and they need a CA for that flight now. A transportation leg from MCO to TPA does nothing for the TPA pilot, he is in TPA, Y listing for TPA originating trips.

The point of the Y list is to avoid having to put a pilot in a car and drive them from MCO to TPA, when we have pilots living in non domicile bases, wanting to operating a flight.

For NK, you could do well if you lived in a non domicile city where we do a lot of overnights; LAX and BWI come to mind.

Cinco touched on this in the above response, but to elaborate more using your example of MCO base and TPA flight, let’s say it’s one leg to ATL and DH home.

X list is beyond 3 hours, so if they need an MCO pilot in TPA and they called pilots in Orlando for the trip it will start with a company limo MCO-TPA. He does the flight and they deadhead him back to MCO.

Y list is under 3 hours, so they need someone there PDQ. If you are Y listed in TPA and they call you, they will return you to base, so you will fly to ATL and they deadhead you back to MCO. What most pilots do is get released from the deadhead and jumpseat back to TPA, or you can take the company deadhead and rent a car. This is one reason many people don’t Y list, but I’ll buy a $100 rental against a $6k one leg soft credit premium trip.

Thanks guys, definitely makes sense if it is a nice one leg operate and DH back to a base. And you're right that a rental car is a small price to pay for a $6k trip. I'm just a pilot doing what we do best 🤣

Thankfully Uber has replaced rent a car for most things like this. It’s $100 for the Uber from MCO-TPA IF you are operating the leg back, which you won’t on all of them. Not a bad deal at all

Can you be on X and Y lists simultaneously?

Yes you can be on both X/Y lists at the same time in your base. I live 2 hrs away from base.
Just have to have a bug out bag packed the car gassed up if I list for the Y list and answer the phone you can always let it go to voicemail that way you are not on the hook.