Schedule Reductions
03-20-2020, 10:29 AM
#71
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Originally Posted by overthrust
Personally, I try to work the minimum days/hours I can. When at work I do my job as asked. But I expect the company to bear the brunt of costs when need be. Not labor. And seniority should never be violated like it has been with this and repeatedly in recent years at Skywest.
And if you like to work min hours/days this should be great for you.
Seriously though, you are an A S S to advocate furloughs so you can keep a higher monthly credit.
03-20-2020, 10:55 AM
#72
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Position: B747 FO
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Originally Posted by Utah
Where the hell are you seeing seniority violated. These leave programs are going to be awarded by seniority. Unless they don't have enough takers, then it will be by inverse seniority for a paid 50 hours a month. They'll be plenty that put in for the paid 50 hours a month. You'd be an idiot not to if you are a commuter to a reserve only base next month.
And if you like to work min hours/days this should be great for you.
Seriously though, you are an A S S to advocate furloughs so you can keep a higher monthly credit.
And if you like to work min hours/days this should be great for you.
Seriously though, you are an A S S to advocate furloughs so you can keep a higher monthly credit.
I understand that seniority is everything in the airline industry, and on a normal basis it should be untouchable. But in a situation like this.....if you normally make 10, but now you're gonna make 5 so that someone you fly with can make another 5 instead of 0...where's the problem? Better to keep makingg 10 even if a fellow pilot makes 0? seriously?
03-20-2020, 12:15 PM
#74
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Originally Posted by CRJJ
100% A S S
I understand that seniority is everything in the airline industry, and on a normal basis it should be untouchable. But in a situation like this.....if you normally make 10, but now you're gonna make 5 so that someone you fly with can make another 5 instead of 0...where's the problem? Better to keep makingg 10 even if a fellow pilot makes 0? seriously?
I understand that seniority is everything in the airline industry, and on a normal basis it should be untouchable. But in a situation like this.....if you normally make 10, but now you're gonna make 5 so that someone you fly with can make another 5 instead of 0...where's the problem? Better to keep makingg 10 even if a fellow pilot makes 0? seriously?
03-20-2020, 12:20 PM
#75
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Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 228
Originally Posted by overthrust
I'm saying labor shouldn't be giving up anything in order to 'mitigate furloughs'. Instead entire domiciles are going on reserve. Reduction in line holder guarantee to 72. Reduction in reserve guarantee to 67. The 50 hour zero block offer can be reduced to 36 if ATC shuts down.
It should simply be monthly guarantee of 75. The company can offer various voluntary leaves. If that is not enough, furlough.
It should simply be monthly guarantee of 75. The company can offer various voluntary leaves. If that is not enough, furlough.
03-20-2020, 01:53 PM
#76
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Position: B-777 CA
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Everyone should lighten up. What a guy thinks today might be the opposite of what he thinks tomorrow after a little debating goes on. There are lots of ways to see things here and they are all correct, and they are all wrong. Also, they will all change.
03-20-2020, 01:54 PM
#77
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Originally Posted by overthrust
Really? Everyone congratulating SAPA for a job well done? What a blatant disregard for seniority and 'policy'. People make decisions to stay or go based off of what is written in the PPM. Then when a situation occurs that would actually require the application of it, it gets pencil whipped to whatever the company desires. This should have been voluntary leave (including 50hr zero block months) followed by furloughs if necessary.
03-20-2020, 07:39 PM
#79
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Originally Posted by captive apple
Don't forget that Trump Check.
TRUMP CHECK!
TRUMP CHECK!
That's assuming they can find buyers for T-bills if the interest rate goes negative, which it may well do (see: Germany, Japan)...
03-20-2020, 08:54 PM
#80
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Originally Posted by overthrust
Personally, I try to work the minimum days/hours I can. When at work I do my job as asked. But I expect the company to bear the brunt of costs when need be. Not labor. And seniority should never be violated like it has been with this and repeatedly in recent years at Skywest.
Seriously? The company you've been at "10-20' years. Can very well go bankrupt if they had the same attitude you do. You obviously don't give a rats ass about your fellow coworkers. Doesn't matter if they're below you.
And we all know you crusty seniors get max days off. You're still making x4 than 80% of those below you. You can stomach VTO for three months.
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